The idea that we need to DPS must go.

[Hezzlocks]

Healers that don't DPS, don't make any effort to DPS, and only utilize 1/3 of their kit (or less) should be considered Third Class Citizens and have to pay an exorbitant gil penalty to each party member that is forced to suffer alongside their miserable presence.

Here's your reply OP.

Healers should dps during downtime, this is true.

The irony of your statement, though, is that a lot of healers only use 1/3rd of their kit or less, except for the opposite reason: They use their DPS tools and barely touch their healing stuff. Not that I can blame them, for the reasons I said in my previous post.

[Dynia]

when I keep telling that healer should heal not dps ppls tell im trolling ...

and yes im dpsing while I can ...

[Misutoraru]

Or maybe can we just push the damage receive to so much higher that we will spend 80% of our time healing and the rest dodging mechanics.

[Tenerezza]

We should focus our raid performance on not overhealing and ensuring that we are able to keep our comrades alive throughout encounters. In doing so, we are bolstering community performance and promoting the dev team's ideals of pure healing. I believe this will increase communication and cohesion of the three roles.

The idea that the only content is end game dungeons MUST GO!. Am i the only player who play other content in this game? it's damn boring to spam 1 button over and over with the press of another every 30 sec.

It's neither fun, nor engaging.

[Sparkthor]

There is really something what bothers me a lot since 5.0 about changes reactions.

I read : we have nothing to heal. I wanna say : show me a ShB dungeon run with 1 tank and 3 DPS.

Without going this far, top speed kill of new Ex Primal/Sadique nearly always got 2 healer. So if ne heal was required, why bother bringing an healer instead of a dps ?

I think the true felling is : "My oGCD heal are usually enough to heal". But in order to achieve this, you have to play healer very well, that's a logical things if you pley FFXIV for a long time. But can't you remember your firsts experiences as healer in FFXIV ?...
Ok this one may be irrevelent as early dungeon was deadly simple. However, it doesn't change the fact new healers cannot have this knowledge of the game that allow you to go nearly full DPS spells.

Let's talk about down time, and for this i will take in exemple Titania Ex. This fight got one healer stress moment which is add phase, and mostly bug add phase, with a lot of dommage and mecanics to deal with. Can anyone bears a fight of 10 minutes with this kind of intensity ? Maybe this is a bit hard for "only" an extreme trial.

And one last things, back to HW. Who were happy when seeing a SCH never quit clearic stance for a 1st week run of Mach or Dun Scaith ? I don't, and i heave see way to many of this : SCH is a healer with a heal pet, not a DPS with a heal pet.

Having any kind of DPS rotation on healer would i think scares new player to get to the role, as having donwtime to DPS as an healer is something you earned by mastering your jobs, not by default, or simply, the more you master, the more downtime you get. And this is not rewarding enough for you ?

[Conna]

There is really something what bothers me a lot since 5.0 about changes reactions.

I read : we have nothing to heal. I wanna say : show me a ShB dungeon run with 1 tank and 3 DPS.

Without going this far, top speed kill of new Ex Primal/Sadique nearly always got 2 healer. So if ne heal was required, why bother bringing an healer instead of a dps ?

I think the true felling is : "My oGCD heal are usually enough to heal". But in order to achieve this, you have to play healer very well, that's a logical things if you pley FFXIV for a long time. But can't you remember your firsts experiences as healer in FFXIV ?...
Ok this one may be irrevelent as early dungeon was deadly simple. However, it doesn't change the fact new healers cannot have this knowledge of the game that allow you to go nearly full DPS spells.

Let's talk about down time, and for this i will take in exemple Titania Ex. This fight got one healer stress moment which is add phase, and mostly bug add phase, with a lot of dommage and mecanics to deal with. Can anyone bears a fight of 10 minutes with this kind of intensity ? Maybe this is a bit hard for "only" an extreme trial.

And one last things, back to HW. Who were happy when seeing a SCH never quit clearic stance for a 1st week run of Mach or Dun Scaith ? I don't, and i heave see way to many of this : SCH is a healer with a heal pet, not a DPS with a heal pet.

Having any kind of DPS rotation on healer would i think scares new player to get to the role, as having donwtime to DPS as an healer is something you earned by mastering your jobs, not by default, or simply, the more you master, the more downtime you get. And this is not rewarding enough for you ?

Twintania progression was like this back in 2.0 because people were severely undergeared due to SE releasing binding coil before crystal tower which was meant to help gear for it. It was a glorious time to be a healer !!!

[Mortex]

Laughts in week 1 savage prog dps check

[EpicOverlord85]

We should focus our raid performance on not overhealing and ensuring that we are able to keep our comrades alive throughout encounters. In doing so, we are bolstering community performance and promoting the dev team's ideals of pure healing. I believe this will increase communication and cohesion of the three roles.

The idea of a pure healer cannot and will not ever exist in FF14 due to the way combat is designed and scripted. As it stands you will always be able find down periods in combat and during said downtime you should be doing something such as DPSing.

[Hezzlocks]

The idea of a pure healer cannot and will not ever exist in FF14 due to the way combat is designed and scripted. As it stands you will always be able find down periods in combat and during said downtime you should be doing something such as DPSing.

Absolutely correct, as much as it bothers me. You can't have a pure healer in this game without designing fights that stray away the general standard design FF14 uses so much.

[Ahrijlaken]

the dev team's ideals of pure healing

When SE use the term Pure healer they mean "no shield healer" ... it has nothing to do with the fact that healer DPS too.