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  1. #451
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    Makeda Fyah
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElazulHP View Post
    Except that people that bought the game on Steam during ARR didn't know they were going to be locked to Steam. Square didn't implement that policy until HW released.
    Did SE do this or did Steam donit?

    It all sounds like something Steam would do to be able to control their own analytics for monetization purposes. I think other games that are on Steam also have this problem. All if them? I don’t know.

    I know Skyrim lets you keep Steam in an offline mode, but Skyrim os also an offline game...

    It seemed obvious to me the day Steam came out that I was better off avoiding it for any game where I could. Inserting a middleman into a process is almost never good for either party at the outside edges of an agreement...
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  2. #452
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    Ahnohla Mujuuk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    So, people are still demanding that S-E fix a bad decision by players (buying the game on Steam)? It won't happen. You chose to buy (or accept as a gift) the game on Steam, and when you did so, you agreed to Steam's TOS, which included making changes like this. Accept the consequences of your actions.
    A) There was nothing stated at the time that we would be locked into using Steam always.

    B) This is an SE change, not a Steam change. Steam has been asked about it, and they have clearly stated it is not them pushing the change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramina View Post
    A) There was nothing stated at the time that we would be locked into using Steam always.

    B) This is an SE change, not a Steam change. Steam has been asked about it, and they have clearly stated it is not them pushing the change.
    If anything, I'm certain the reason you can not transfer away from a Steam version of the game is due to Steam's licensing agreements.

    Basically, once you're in their ecosystem, they want to keep you, so there's probably some stipulations for being able to sell FFXIV on Steam that involve this sort of thing.

    If anything, the supposed fraud we're seeing is due to Steam's weird policies. Individuals should be complaining to Steam about them tying you to their marketplace, but, knowing Valve, they won't do anything, and if they do, it'll be years from now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    I never said that you did. Nor am I trying to argue with you. No need to get defensive over someone having a different take on the matter.
    Your post was entirely superfluous then. Not sure why people like shouting into the void.
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    Super disappointed that they're actually going through with this. If I start having problems logging in or playing because of this, I'll be pretty darn unhappy about it. Haven't logged in through Steam in years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McDonlee View Post
    signed if I have to go back through the steam client again and deal with those issues all over I am canceling my account
    This here. Also signing this.

    As the late great Archer once said:
    Do you want people to stop playing your game?
    Cause THAT'S how you get people to stop playing your game.
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    after the news about this change awhile ago i did install my game and run it through steam, until now i didnt had any difficulties or any performance issues like "eso" players did with "eso".
    if it stays this way i will continue playing ff14, but if performance should start suffering because the game is run through the steam client, steam/se are slow on fixing any problem or se doesn't offer a "platform" change for pc/steam, i will strongly consider canceling my sub until they resolve the issues (if there happen to be any).

    all the ignorant people going around and blaming the players for using the option of buying the game trough steam and telling them its the players fault, no it not. no other game that i know of has such of a mess with its licensing. its se who decided how to separate their platforms, what ever the reason was, se decided to partner up with steam and allow players to buy the game through that platform... ah what ever, i am sick of repeating the same things over and over in this topic.

    this is gonna be my last post in this thread, i really hope there wont be any issues and that we can continue having smooth expirience while playing the game, no matter the platform.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IamBetterThanYou View Post
    What if we get banned in our steam account? We cant play ff14 anymore?
    Make another Steam account, repurchase FFXIV on the new Steam account, login with the same FFXIV account.

    So, don't get banned, and if you are, try to appeal.
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  9. #459
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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    So, don't get banned, and if you are, try to appeal.
    True, same thing happen with ps4 version and i dont see anyone complain about it, if do any action that get your account banned on stream, psn then contact their support to see if that action can be lifted or not

    Beside, every stream version of ff14 being bought on stream have to paid royalty for Valve, now if they give player an ability to trade it for other version for free then those royalty will be paid for nothing
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    Consider it signed.

    I don't understand why people would actually be for this change when we're constantly shown and told that the developers can't even handle their own servers. As if they'd be able to handle troubleshooting for other ports and services.
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