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    Quote Originally Posted by IBLazORI View Post
    Also forgot to include
    Shadow fang is now apart of armor crush combo. Eliminating the shadow fang combo
    You don't know your own combos, Shadow Fang doesn't combo into Armor Crush so your sentence doesn't make sense.

    Anyway, 1 button is 1 button, if you maintain Mudras+Ninjutsu it's a 2 keybind combo not 1, you should say that you want to reduce the amount of mudras required per Ninjutsu instead, but that is also wrong because you intend to keep 2 and 3 combinations so you basically just mix mudras around for nothing.

    You idea would make players have to re-learn their muscle memory and brings literally nothing.

    About the 1-2-3 etc etc combos, I explained it on my first post so I'm not gonna repeat myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc-Vigar View Post
    You don't know your own combos, Shadow Fang doesn't combo into Armor Crush so your sentence doesn't make sense.

    Anyway, 1 button is 1 button, if you maintain Mudras+Ninjutsu it's a 2 keybind combo not 1, you should say that you want to reduce the amount of mudras required per Ninjutsu instead, but that is also wrong because you intend to keep 2 and 3 combinations so you basically just mix mudras around for nothing.

    You idea would make players have to re-learn their muscle memory and brings literally nothing.

    About the 1-2-3 etc etc combos, I explained it on my first post so I'm not gonna repeat myself.
    I very well know the ninjas combos.
    I think we are misunderstanding each other.
    I know shadow fang doesnt combo into armor crush. Im suggesting that Shadow fangs Dot be included in armor crush and just elminate the shadow fang combo. So you would now only have your Aeolian edge combo and Armor crush combo(with the inclusion of the shadow fang dot).

    The main mudras you use are all 2 button mudras, Raiton and Hyoshu Ranryu.

    Should i label 3 button mudras as 4 button mudras for clarity? That wouldn't make sense because fuma, raiton,hyoton are not mudras and are "Ninjutsu"

    I thought it was common knowledge that a 3 button mudra is a 3 button combo of mudras followed by a executing a "Ninjutsu"

    In my original post I did label them as "1 button mudras" "2 button mudras" "3 button mudras"

    Whats wrong with relearning combos? Lots of classes have been completely changed many times.
    We had to relearn shadowfang from a 3 button combo to a 2 button combo. It's not much to adapt and it would be much more stream lined and less button presses than it currently is.

    Machinist had their job completely changed and it didnt take long to relearn that class.

    I'm not sure if you are correctly reading my post and are just posting out of impulse.


    EDIT:
    For example ninjas currently have about a 34-36 button opener within 7 GCD's

    implementing my suggestion for "Mudras" not "Ninjutsu"
    Would reduce the button combination to about 28-30 buttons pressed. Reducing the amount of clipping using 3 button mudras (or 4 button mudras as you would call them)

    Ninjas can press for example Jin > Raiton, as that fits into a double weave, unlike the current Jin > Chi > Raiton

    With my suggestions the only 2 button mudra (3 button mudra for your liking) would be suiton.

    With my suggestions tou would never use a 3 button mudra ( 4 button mudra for your liking) during a battle
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    Last edited by IBLazORI; 08-01-2019 at 03:53 AM.

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    I agree that there can be a misunderstanding but that's because you don't explain properly, you made it sound like you wanted just to press 1 mudra (without ninjutsu) for the skill to go on. Read the first sentence from my first post.

    The problem with your suggestions, besides what I already said, is that you focus exclusively on raid content. To put it clear, all you want is less buttons for your opener and single target mudras/rotation and you don't really care about AoE at all (dungeons).

    What is wrong with relearning combos is as simple as there is no need to do that, so it's a complete waste of time and efford. Machinist is a complete different case but I'm not gonna dive into that.
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