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    literally the entire point behind this thread is "no healer deserves to be buffed to perform even closely to white mage" lol. talk about bias.
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    Yuin Yasha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Videra View Post
    Get over it. WHM is fine. The other healers are now in a notably better position than previously.
    wait 2 more patches, like I said history like to repeat itself like it was in HW and SB

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalPesto View Post
    literally the entire point behind this thread is "no healer deserves to be buffed to perform even closely to white mage" lol. talk about bias.
    ok lets just boost astro and sch even more that no1 will want WHM again like in HW in SB
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynia View Post
    wait 2 more patches, like I said history like to repeat itself like it was in HW and SB



    ok lets just boost astro and sch even more that no1 will want WHM again like in HW in SB
    But they haven't...AST had a really low HPS, SCH had a lower HPS than Whm. AST DPS is really low. SCH DPS was lower than Whm.
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  4. #54
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    Equinox Axxion
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    Whm becoming the black sheep?

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    for a year, would you rather be secretly filmed at random moments and have the footage uploaded to your social media or loose $100 when ever you said a curse word?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saefinn View Post
    SCH DPS was lower than Whm.
    WAS, now add energy drain and you will see this dps will be same or just litte lower if they keep buffing like it was in HW or SB WHm will be black sheep again

    im betting my last money they will keep bufing astro and sch in future patches ...

    mark my words
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynia View Post
    WAS, now add energy drain and you will see this dps will be same or just litte lower if they keep buffing like it was in HW or SB WHm will be black sheep again

    im betting my last money they will keep bufing astro and sch in future patches ...

    mark my words
    A 150 potency attack based off of aether flow, something they reserve for heal spells. I bet it'll be used maybe every 60 seconds when on content, because a SCH might have on ready for a Lustrate or Excog and one for Indom. Last I checked WHM had a bigger difference in DPS to SCH than what energy drain could close even if all aether flow stacks were dumped into it.

    150 is not a lot of damage...

    It is probable that WHM will not get love from past experience. For this patch, it didn't need any love in terms of balance. It needs love in other areas, which I can empathise. I think all healers can. But the things you're kicking off about in what they've tweaked in this patch are inaccurate.
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    Last edited by Saefinn; 07-30-2019 at 08:14 PM.

  7. #57
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    Videra Svenay
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynia View Post
    wait 2 more patches, like I said history like to repeat itself like it was in HW and SB



    ok lets just boost astro and sch even more that no1 will want WHM again like in HW in SB
    WHM is the progression healer, and the generally reliable healer. It has never been 'trash' like you believe, and it was never unwanted in Heavensward and Stormblood. Only idiots who try for the absolute bleeding edge of performance (that they can't reach) think that.
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  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynia View Post
    WAS, now add energy drain and you will see this dps will be same or just litte lower if they keep buffing like it was in HW or SB WHm will be black sheep again
    Please stop this is just embarrassing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Videra View Post
    WHM is the progression healer, and the generally reliable healer. It has never been 'trash' like you believe, and it was never unwanted in Heavensward and Stormblood. Only idiots who try for the absolute bleeding edge of performance (that they can't reach) think that.
    It's as if people don't think at all about what they're doing and blindingly listen to what the raiding community says is "better". Forgetting that "better" means a small increase in RDPS that most groups are not even getting due to misaligned party buffs. It's baffling how a small difference in DPS pushes a job into "garbage" tier in the eyes of the community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynia View Post
    WAS, now add energy drain and you will see this dps will be same or just litte lower if they keep buffing like it was in HW or SB WHm will be black sheep again

    im betting my last money they will keep bufing astro and sch in future patches ...

    mark my words
    This is why it's hard to take you seriously. You think 1 oGCD is enough to bridge the 1k gap between SCH and WHM. For the sake of argument, let's say it is, it isn't, but let's go to magical fairy world where math doesnt work and say it does. You are advocating for SCH and AST to be WORSE, this is your solution. You dont suggest improvements for WHM, you dont give suggestions for WHM to feel and play better, rather, you want the other healers to be dragged through the mud just so WHM can stand at the top and gladly claim it got screwed over the least.

    If you suggest actual improvements for WHM that didnt include making SCH/AST feel worse to play, or make them uninteresting, or w/e, I could rally behind you, but you dont. You want SCH to be worse, so of course nobody wants to back you up. You actively make WHMs position worse, because that class does have problems, but you're making everyone think that all WHMs want is for the other healers to be bad, you're actively making people who want to help WHM turn away.
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    Make SCH great again! Seriously though, we just want our class to be fun and engaging again, not OP, is that too much to ask for?

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