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  1. #11
    Player
    Niyuka's Avatar
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    Cierre Mhakaracca
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 90
    I really appreciate SE not tuning for bad players on EVERY class, but leaving some for those with more interest in smart and skillful play. now they just have to get the numbers up to where it pays off. A NIN should contribute more rDPS total than an easy class, for example.
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  2. #12
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    Adventica6's Avatar
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    Character
    Lost Tales
    World
    Diabolos
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Instead of hitting 3 buttons you hit 4-5, 1st world problems.
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  3. #13
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    Reimmi's Avatar
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    Nia Niyah
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    Hyperion
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Xyr View Post
    Yep, it's not that it's becoming more difficult but more like becoming tedious just to have too many things on the hotbars.

    Sounds like a good problem to me.
    Believe me, you don't want the wow direction of a 2-3 button rotation, very very boring.
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  4. #14
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    Xyr's Avatar
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    Winter Soul
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Reimmi View Post
    Sounds like a good problem to me.
    Believe me, you don't want the wow direction of a 2-3 button rotation, very very boring.
    A problem is a problem, doesn't matter whether too simplistic or too tedious. "WoW" is such a cop out. At that point I might as well just say hey WoW has mounts, let's get rid of mounts. We don't want it to become WoW.
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  5. #15
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    reyre's Avatar
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    Reyner Blackblood
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Xyr View Post
    A problem is a problem, doesn't matter whether too simplistic or too tedious. "WoW" is such a cop out. At that point I might as well just say hey WoW has mounts, let's get rid of mounts. We don't want it to become WoW.
    huh, i have seen you in several posts and you use the same argument, always, everytime, its almost a cop out. Dont you have anything to add? because it seems you dont, you have nothing but complains, and that is fine and dandy but you offer no solutions. Exactly what is your point again?
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  6. #16
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    Chocolate_Rain's Avatar
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    Character
    Chocolate Dynamite
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 60
    One of the biggest complaints people have about FF14 is how slow combat feels. I think it's just SE listening to that. They need to focus on the feeling of early game, as that's when the combat actually feels that way. They could also tune up the classes that currently have a ton going on to smooth out the combat flow.
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  7. #17
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    Xyr's Avatar
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    Winter Soul
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by reyre View Post
    huh, i have seen you in several posts and you use the same argument, always, everytime, its almost a cop out. Dont you have anything to add? because it seems you dont, you have nothing but complains, and that is fine and dandy but you offer no solutions. Exactly what is your point again?
    Another fanboy, ignoring all the posts of suggestions regarding specific problems I made and only bringing up the "complaints". Just some example, I suggested reducing GCD to make the the flow of combat more smooth and fast paced, make skills connect with each other more instead of feeling like each skill is an individual action, making trick attack only increase damage to the Ninja and buff Ninja DPS, and consolidating single target/aoe to a toggle on/off for many of the aoe skills that are just carbon copy of their single target counterparts, and suggestions to revamp of Meditation/Shoha. But hey, as expected of another fanboy, ignoring everything except what fits their ideals, just like I stated.
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  8. #18
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    MerlinCross's Avatar
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    Character
    Lavitz Orlandeau
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Xyr View Post
    Another fanboy, ignoring all the posts of suggestions regarding specific problems I made and only bringing up the "complaints". Just some example, I suggested reducing GCD to make the the flow of combat more smooth and fast paced, make skills connect with each other more instead of feeling like each skill is an individual action, making trick attack only increase damage to the Ninja and buff Ninja DPS, and consolidating single target/aoe to a toggle on/off for many of the aoe skills that are just carbon copy of their single target counterparts, and suggestions to revamp of Meditation/Shoha. But hey, as expected of another fanboy, ignoring everything except what fits their ideals, just like I stated.
    Wouldn't we just have people complaining about having to turn them on and off for AoE? Especially if bosses summon up a lot of adds I can see that being the new "Stance dance" complaint for some fights.
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  9. #19
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    Xyr's Avatar
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    Winter Soul
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    Siren
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by MerlinCross View Post
    Wouldn't we just have people complaining about having to turn them on and off for AoE? Especially if bosses summon up a lot of adds I can see that being the new "Stance dance" complaint for some fights.
    People are always going to complain, I personally rather stance dance than having to set up an entirely separate hotbar just for aoe that do the exact same thing as their single target counterparts, and it would reduce bloat.
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  10. #20
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    ColaSama's Avatar
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    Character
    San Meiken
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Xyr View Post
    A problem is a problem, doesn't matter whether too simplistic or too tedious. "WoW" is such a cop out. At that point I might as well just say hey WoW has mounts, let's get rid of mounts. We don't want it to become WoW.
    Oh boy, you again with your silly "logic" ? I have seen you in many posts saying the exact same non sensical thing, always with someone roasting you afterward... and here you are again ?

    People dislike simple rotations because they are boring as fuck. Period. They tend to bring up WoW because a) it's the most common MMO and therefore a reference and b) it's an example of what simple rotations can do, aka "ruining classes". The fuck are you babling about with your mounts. Smell like a troll to me.

    I should add that some of your points are interesting, like "make skills connect with each other more instead of feeling like each skill is an individual action" and "aoe that do the exact same thing as their single target counterparts". As for the stance dance... hmm, don't know about that. Can you give me an example of a "bloated class" and a "nicely designed" one in this game ?

    Just... please... don't bring up your "delete mounts because WoW has it LUL" argument, it makes you sound silly.
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    Last edited by ColaSama; 07-29-2019 at 05:41 AM.

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