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  1. #71
    Player
    GrumbleBeard's Avatar
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    Feb 2015
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Severa Nanase
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    People tend to remember their bad experiences way more often then good/neutral ones. Since it's inception, I've seen it used maliciously maybe 20 times. I myself have used it to kill my friends a few times in duties for fun. At the same time, I use it way more often to pull people behind rocks for mechanics or this or that. I promise you though that they remember me killing them and not the all the other times.

    At the end of the day, who cares? If it's not serious content and you get pulled, whether well intention or not, does it really matter? And if it is serious content, you likely will not see it's use anyway. The sky is not falling because you lost a cast or missed a positional.
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  2. #72
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    Tyrial's Avatar
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    Tyrial Highguard
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 80
    Skip the toggle and just delete it from the game. Give healers something actually useful outside of extremely niche situations. I've never had it used on me in a positive way. If I'm not standing where the healer wants me to stand I get yanked. I can be in a perfectly safe spot and they think I'm in danger so I get yanked (most times through the AoEs I was already safely avoiding). Add to that the fact that I'm a tank...I know what will and won't kill me. I know the difference between the situations where I can safely pop a CD and eat the AoE to keep DPSing and when I legitimately need to move. Also, considering Clemency is so OP...I'm pretty sure I'm safe either way. I've done my fair share of soloing bosses after everyone else dies or healing the DPS and myself after the healer goes and gets themselves killed.
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  3. #73
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Character
    Adore Mi
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Rescue has it's uses. For example, when people are not paying attention and get hit by Titania's Phantom Rune, it can save them from committing suicide off the edge.

    Yesterday, I was healing on Expert and got Amaurot. I believe it was the first boss (maybe second, can't remember) who casts a meteor like ability and you hide behind a rock. Kid you not, the Red Mage in our party died three times to it. I had forgotten to add Rescue to my hot bar, otherwise I could've saved them.

    It's also practically indispensable in PVP, especially Frontlines.
    (3)
    Player : フェアリーのミラプリも作ってるんですか?
    (Any plan on Fairies glamour?)
    Yoshi'p Sampo: フェアリーはエギではないので、予定がないです。残念ながら。
    (Since Fairies aren't Egi so, No.)

  4. #74
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    Tyrial's Avatar
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    Tyrial Highguard
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    Sargatanas
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Rescue has it's uses. For example, when people are not paying attention and get hit by Titania's Phantom Rune, it can save them from committing suicide off the edge.

    Yesterday, I was healing on Expert and got Amaurot. I believe it was the first boss (maybe second, can't remember) who casts a meteor like ability and you hide behind a rock. Kid you not, the Red Mage in our party died three times to it. I had forgotten to add Rescue to my hot bar, otherwise I could've saved them.

    It's also practically indispensable in PVP, especially Frontlines.
    Points 1 and 2 are player problems, not healer problems, and don't validate the wasted role skill slot that Rescue takes up. Point 3 is a nonissue because they can just give it to healers in PVP.
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  5. #75
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    Tsumdere's Avatar
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    Ishgard
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    Character
    Fia Mortivault
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    A skill should never be removed because a lot of people are too bad to use it properly or because it has been used occasionally for a trolling. Besides, like all skills in the game you simply report people using it to troll.

    I use Rescue constantly for animation locked DPS, AoE-loving DPS, or people not lining up right for mechanics.
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  6. #76
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    Ayuhra's Avatar
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    Palace of the Dead
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    Character
    Ayuh'ra Bajhiri
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Eh, rescue has pulled me out of danger when I’ve gone into things blind. Keep it.
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  7. #77
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    Lunavi's Avatar
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    Character
    Luna Nattvind
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    Yes, I hate it when I am in a dungeon and the healer doesn't know BLMs have Manaward and interrupts my Despair cast and destroys my rotation as I drop Enochian before my big finisher, not even to mention the trolls who 90% of the times I see this ability cast are the ones casting it.
    (1)
    Learn, explore, and think for yourself. Make your choices, take actions, and let yourself be free.

  8. #78
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    Machi_Machiavelli's Avatar
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    Character
    Tiberius Caesar
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    I love it. It's like tractor from ffxi except I can use it before people die. People dying negatively impacts the whole group. An interrupted cast is a small price to pay. It also helps save swiftscast for more important things instead of raising someone who died needlessly.
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  9. #79
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    alimdia's Avatar
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    Ali Lifesaver
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrial View Post
    Points 1 and 2 are player problems, not healer problems, and don't validate the wasted role skill slot that Rescue takes up. Point 3 is a nonissue because they can just give it to healers in PVP.
    You're assuming we would have something else if rescue wasn't there. We no longer have an even number of role skills among roles, if they remove rescue then we won't gain anything in exchange.

    They are healer problems because it's the healer who has to waste gcds and some MP reviving and re-healing the person who died and could have lived with a rescue.

    The last two times I used rescue was with people who were standing away from the party and forcing me to use single target heals after aoe heals. If they didn't like my rescue they could have learned a minimum of self awareness and stood near the party for heals, or paid attention to their hp and seeing they were the only one not getting healed.
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  10. #80
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    Inuk9's Avatar
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    Character
    Cacho'rro Dos'ventos
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    I only had one time problem with it. In a pug titania on the first phase tether you need to split tank/healers from dps. As a MT I try to keep a maximum uptime as possible so I never move all the way to the north and there was this one healer who kept rescuing me like he was saving the world. Even if I get 1 vul stack in that particular mechanic is not a big deal at all because the MT stop getting autos in the electrical tether phase and for fae light we just use invul.

    But after I asked him to stop using rescue he (look at that) stoped. And no vul stacks for me that day.
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