Ever seen a bad player on Twitch play this game?

[Skivvy]

Let me preface this by saying I could be SO INCREDIBLY WRONG here, and if so, I apologize.

But how this reads to me is that you were watching a female gamer play a game and you offered unsolicited advice in her chat, which it seems she has rules asking not to do. When she replied that she was wanting to experience the game first-hand (which many people do), you got so offended at being rebuffed that you had to come here and proceed to trash talk her skill and play style all because she refused your help that she never asked for.

For lack of a better term, it's giving me some neckbeard/nice-guy vibes.

[SturmChurro]

Let me preface this by saying I could be SO INCREDIBLY WRONG here, and if so, I apologize.

But how this reads to me is that you were watching a female gamer play a game and you offered unsolicited advice in her chat, which it seems she has rules asking not to do. When she replied that she was wanting to experience the game first-hand (which many people do), you got so offended at being rebuffed that you had to come here and proceed to trash talk her skill and play style all because she refused your help that she never asked for.

For lack of a better term, it's giving me some neckbeard/nice-guy vibes.

That is literally exactly what I got from this thread.

[alimdia]

Let me preface this by saying I could be SO INCREDIBLY WRONG here, and if so, I apologize.

But how this reads to me is that you were watching a female gamer play a game and you offered unsolicited advice in her chat, which it seems she has rules asking not to do. When she replied that she was wanting to experience the game first-hand (which many people do), you got so offended at being rebuffed that you had to come here and proceed to trash talk her skill and play style all because she refused your help that she never asked for.

For lack of a better term, it's giving me some neckbeard/nice-guy vibes.

Backseat gaming happens regardless of gender.

[Skivvy]

Backseat gaming happens regardless of gender.

Of course it does, but OP is the one who mentioned the streamer's gender in the first post. I am also not really too worried about them offering a rather vague warning about what was to come (if the story is 100% true).

What DOES bother me is the fact that they were seemingly so offended by her response, which doesn't really seem that bad, that they felt the need to come onto the game's official forums to talk down about her.

It really reeks of "This girl didn't give me the attention I wanted, so now I'm going to trash her to feel better".

[Raven2014]

Let me preface this by saying I could be SO INCREDIBLY WRONG here, and if so, I apologize.

But how this reads to me is that you were watching a female gamer play a game and you offered unsolicited advice in her chat, which it seems she has rules asking not to do. When she replied that she was wanting to experience the game first-hand (which many people do), you got so offended at being rebuffed that you had to come here and proceed to trash talk her skill and play style all because she refused your help that she never asked for.

For lack of a better term, it's giving me some neckbeard/nice-guy vibes.

Yeah, the same thought for me. And tbh the "rebuff" from the streamer is not even harsh, given the average internet etiquette it seems to be a perfectly reasonable way to remind someone who didnt follow the rule specified. It seems to me the OP is just annoyed with the "YOU SUCK AND YOU DARE YOU REFUSE MY HELP!?!?" attitude. Like the streamer said, it's their party, and if her party decided they can't accommodate her the would have vote kicked, no need for someone else getting angry on their behalf. And apparently that's not enough the OP feels the need to make a thread and whiteknighting about the event here ...

*Shrug*.

[DiscoDuck]

Let me preface this by saying I could be SO INCREDIBLY WRONG here, and if so, I apologize.

But how this reads to me is that you were watching a female gamer play a game and you offered unsolicited advice in her chat, which it seems she has rules asking not to do. When she replied that she was wanting to experience the game first-hand (which many people do), you got so offended at being rebuffed that you had to come here and proceed to trash talk her skill and play style all because she refused your help that she never asked for.

For lack of a better term, it's giving me some neckbeard/nice-guy vibes.

I guess he was hoping to score some "gamer girl bathwater" for free? or wanted her to call him Daddy for being such a helpful nice guy? lol

[Charisma]

Well, like 3 years ago one of my favourite streamers started playing FFXIV which i was pretty happy about because I could play with her that way, she really was sensitive to toxic people in dungeons which is totally fine and understandable. Later when she hit endgame I was watching her doing the first Omega tier raids on normal and she died often enough even after content got old, which is also totally okay to me, but later that day she was queueing up for low-level roulette and proceeded to call the tank, which was new, trash for really trivial mistakes. This was when I unfollowed her and never watched her again because this kind of hypocrisy really pisses me off.

you got so offended at being rebuffed that you had to come here and proceed to trash talk her skill and play style all because she refused your help that she never asked for.

This makes no sense, he is keeping the streamers name private, in which case simply coming here to trash her is pointless, since we don't know who is being trashed...
Also, he didn't spoil any mechanics, there is nothing wrong with telling people to be a bit more cautious about this fight.
OP probably just wanted to tell a story, that is all.

[Skivvy]

This makes no sense, he is keeping the streamers name private, in which case simply coming here to trash her is pointless, since we don't know who is being trashed...Also, he didn't spoil any mechanics, there is nothing wrong with telling people to be a bit more cautious about this fight.
OP probably just wanted to tell a story, that is all.

As I said, I could be wrong, but that is the vibe I got. The story also seems grossly over-exaggerated. To break it down a bit:

-OP states they knows the streamer is new
-Confirms that she has a "no help unless I ask for it", proceeds to give warning anyway
-Girl responds stating she doesn't want the help, but not in an overly negative way
-Claims they spent 1 hr 40 minutes in The Vault. This dungeon is only 90 minutes.
-Claims they sat through 10+ wipes. The chances of finding a DF group to sit through this many wipes on a leveling dungeon is incredibly slim, but probable.

So, the reaction to all of this?
-Complains that she only ever pays half-attention to the game as she is too busy with her stream chat (sounds a bit butt-hurt)
-Gets pissed off by her playing poorly and blames it on her being bull-head which leads us to...
-claiming everything would have been just fine had she only listened to advice (theirs?)

I mean, I get it, we all like watching a flaming dumpster fire now and then, but this type of a reaction and subsequent post puts up a lot of flags for me.