Ever seen a bad player on Twitch play this game?

[White_Wolf_X]

Unless is a "review" of a game .. why would i watch someone else play a game instead of just playing it myself.

[Keddera_StormMoon]

Back when I streamed, I asked for no spoilers too. That's pretty common. I wouldn't have an attitude about it though. Even after still showing a disregard for my rules, I'd have a mod show them out the airlock - problem solved.

[Skivvy]

Let me preface this by saying I could be SO INCREDIBLY WRONG here, and if so, I apologize.

But how this reads to me is that you were watching a female gamer play a game and you offered unsolicited advice in her chat, which it seems she has rules asking not to do. When she replied that she was wanting to experience the game first-hand (which many people do), you got so offended at being rebuffed that you had to come here and proceed to trash talk her skill and play style all because she refused your help that she never asked for.

For lack of a better term, it's giving me some neckbeard/nice-guy vibes.

[Astrus]

To answer the question in the title: No, I rarely watch other people play games I play myself. I mostly only watch streamers play games I want to get a look at before investing into them so if they're bad I couldn't tell.

To weigh in on the topic of people not wanting advice: that's a thing. There are people who enjoy going into everything blind and figuring stuff out for themselves even if it means they get stuck for a while.
This being a multiplayer game it of course means they get the rest of their party stuck with them and I don't rightly know where either party to that run has the "right" to get what they want - in this case more blind tries or the person holding everyone else up accepting advice - but that's only for the players involved to decide.

In recent years I've encountered a plethora of people who get downright agressive if you give them unsolicited advice because you're either taking away their discovery or "tell them how to play (and you don't pay their sub)".
It's why I don't talk to my random party members much any more, it's a greeting at the start of the run and then dead silence.
If we get stuck on mechanics and nobody asks for advice of their own volition I ask if anyone wants advice, if they do then I'm happy to provide it; if they don't I give them three more tries to show they're learning before leaving the group myself or kicking the problem in parties where everyone else knows what to do.

[RokkuEkkusu]

Sometimes, but I've really don't talk much on chat unless it's a friend that's streaming.

As far as FFXIV streams go on Twitch, I usually watch MTQ, Xenosys, and MrHappy, among a few. I know that I'm going to get high-quality, high-leveled, and thing that I can learn when I do have the time to watch streams. After all, not only have they made boss guides, but cleared both Ultimate raids.

[Xandos]

I watch a lot of streamers play on twitch and have seen this some times. Those types of people are not worth my time, and probably not worth yours. I have watched subpar players play different games and have fun doing it. It might be frustrating to see them make a mistake you know is wrong, but if their attitude about the result is entertaining then that's ok with me.

As for all of the people saying "why would I watch someone when I could be playing?". Some people enjoy watching tv when they play, some watch while waiting for queues, some even watch while at work. Different people like different things. Not judging people for that is typically a good thing to do.

[SerLuke]

I really don't get streamer culture the only time I've watched a stream was if a friend was streaming but yeah its not something I normally do so I don't get what is typically acceptable or not acceptable in these types of situations.

[SturmChurro]

Let me preface this by saying I could be SO INCREDIBLY WRONG here, and if so, I apologize.

But how this reads to me is that you were watching a female gamer play a game and you offered unsolicited advice in her chat, which it seems she has rules asking not to do. When she replied that she was wanting to experience the game first-hand (which many people do), you got so offended at being rebuffed that you had to come here and proceed to trash talk her skill and play style all because she refused your help that she never asked for.

For lack of a better term, it's giving me some neckbeard/nice-guy vibes.

That is literally exactly what I got from this thread.

[SweetestLily]

I don't get the point of this post? Was it so people would trash talk the bad player for refusing help? Sorry to say but you come off as a little entitled. If they didn't want help then that's their choice. Some people learn by failure.

[Reimmi]

I leave streams that have that rule, especially if they're new
I can understand not wanting spoilers, obviously, but not wanting advice when you're new? that's stupid to me.
it's not backseat gaming to have help when you're clearly struggling. Striving to be better is a big part of gaming for me, i hate being a detriment to my party, and i try to help others too