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  1. #181
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    Raim's Avatar
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    Raim Surion
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Short Answer: Afflatus skills
    Long Answer: Afflatus skills. Often times a regen on an injured target overheals them where an afflatus skill both in single target and in AoE combined with Assize is enough to top people off without being wasteful. On top of that Afflatus skills pay for themselves in DPS since they build towards a damage skill with their usage. You pretty much always want to use them over Cure, Cure II, Regen, Medica and Medica II if you can help it and not a lot of damage is coming out back to back.
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  2. #182
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    AngelCheese77's Avatar
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    Bjartur Arnason
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus View Post
    Idk about whm not using regen, for me they don't use raise or cures at all.

    There can be 3 dps dead in Eden, tanks can be at 50%, the sch/ast can be sitting at 100/10000 mp and the whm is all Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare, then the pt wipes and we start the process all over again.
    I* can say if I'm struggling to heal the tanks, I will look to Raise second to it (if Swiftcast isn'y up). But if any healer just DPSes and cares not for healing, I would kick them. /shrug Especially if they are forcing me to do it all and not helping (I understand and know my limitations).
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  3. #183
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    Marianno's Avatar
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    Synth Istituto
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    Siren
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    Arcanist Lv 85
    I’ll get a lot of flack for this but it’s because I have those afflatus skills. Tanks have so much HP/defence and I have my lilies sitting there with nothing to use them on. I like using Afflatus Misery because reasons. The defence options tanks have are great but I noticed tanks take such reduce damage and a lot of tanks I have been in parties with even in PF pull such little amount of enemies and there isn’t much damage going out in raids imo. Plus, I do not like overhealing. Afflatus skills are very potent and I need you to take damage so my Afflatus skills do not go to waste on overhealing. Then I can fire off Afflatus Misery, refresh dot if needed and continue to glare the enemy out or holy the cluster of enemies into the dirt.
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  4. #184
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    Marianno's Avatar
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    Synth Istituto
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    Siren
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    Arcanist Lv 85
    Now if people are dead on the ground then I do my first job...HEAL accordingly and pick people up. If there is nothing happening and people are in fighting fit, then I want to have fun too and damage the enemies too. But it would be nice if tanks took a bit more damage so I make use of all healing abilities accordingly.
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  5. #185
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    Evanoel Crownguard
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    Adamantoise
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    Astrologian Lv 74
    It happened last night in Dun Scaith again. Co-healer WHM was rarely throwing out Medica 2 at all. My brother who mains WHM but was on his SMN kept screaming at me about this co-healer of mine. He even rezzed people because this WHM just was so reluctant in doing his job. lmao

    Anyway, I'm so glad people stigmatize AST as the weakest and shitty healer amongst the three because the baddies are moving onto WHM and ruin its name instead.
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  6. #186
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    Typhoria Nightwish
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    Faerie
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Evanoel View Post
    It happened last night in Dun Scaith again. Co-healer WHM was rarely throwing out Medica 2 at all. My brother who mains WHM but was on his SMN kept screaming at me about this co-healer of mine. He even rezzed people because this WHM just was so reluctant in doing his job. lmao

    Anyway, I'm so glad people stigmatize AST as the weakest and shitty healer amongst the three because the baddies are moving onto WHM and ruin its name instead.
    One cast of Medica II has a total healing potency of 700 over 15s though. Assize is an instant 400, and Asylum is 800 over 24s. Neither of these have a cast time, cost nor incur the GCD. In Dun Scaith there really isn't much raid damage happening, especially to the point where the free heals couldn't cover it.
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  7. #187
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    Ribald Hagane
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Evanoel View Post
    It happened last night in Dun Scaith again. Co-healer WHM was rarely throwing out Medica 2 at all.
    The real question is: if you're running Dun Scaith why would you even need the WHM to do "any" Medica 2 at all? In fact, if in a Dun Scaith run and your party get to a point of relying medica 2 to stay alive ... I would honestly question what the party is doing instead of the WHM.
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  8. #188
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    Fynlar Eira
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    Hyperion
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    I envy all you people with parties that actually stand close enough to all be healed with Asylum, because as far as I'm concerned that's a total pipe dream and therefore it's silly to really count Asylum as a proper "AoE heal". I mean, Cure 3 is technically an AoE heal too, but we all know how impractical that spell often is for anything other than stack mechanics...

    A lot of bosses are too big for Asylum to even reach both the tank and the people stacked behind the boss; the bubble is just too small. If they all got right up in the enemy's business, then maybe, but again... pipe dream. (It also can make it much more difficult for people to dodge point blank AoEs.)
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    Last edited by Fynlar; 07-27-2019 at 08:29 AM.

  9. #189
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    Evanoel Crownguard
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    Adamantoise
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    Astrologian Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    The real question is: if you're running Dun Scaith why would you even need the WHM to do "any" Medica 2 at all? In fact, if in a Dun Scaith run and your party get to a point of relying medica 2 to stay alive ... I would honestly question what the party is doing instead of the WHM.
    The real question is, how could you expect people play perfectly every time on DF?

    Whatever happened to the mindset of healer that we will do everything to prevent the group's health to fall low no matter how "ineffective" it is?
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  10. #190
    Player Goji1639's Avatar
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    Father Gascoigne
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Isn't overhealing some kind of negative used as ammunition to label healers as scrubs? If you all enjoy your parses and logs then you should also enjoy the results; where people all play specifically towards what will look best on a spreadsheet, as opposed to what would actually be best for the run.
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    Last edited by Goji1639; 07-29-2019 at 11:40 AM.

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