The Trust Characters take too long to do their attacks.

[MomomiMomi]

Well there is the issue, an AI controlled character is never going to play the same as one with real person on the other side pulling the strings. Considering how much of a step up the Trusts are from the GC Squadrons, there is room for them to get better in the future but they will always be lacking in some areas as they are not intended to be a full replacement of real players.

In terms of combat, they're a huge step down actually.

This isn't an issue of AI not being able to be as good as a player. The issue is that the combat AI is intentionally bad. I was studying Y'shtola just now. A lot of cool spells, but she spams low tier attacks. The only time she'll spam Fire IV (her second strongest spell behind Foul) is when she uses Triple Cast. Most of her time is spent casting fire//blizzard/thunderwater/stone/aero. Tier 1 spells.

[Kurando]

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Must be playing a different game then, never really saw her spamming low tier attacks at all, they were all high tier (Fire IV, Blizzard IV, Thunder IV, Tornado, Water IV etc) but the damage of them was not as high as you would expect.

The AI have specific kits to use in their scripts, so Alisae isn't going to use the entire RDM kit that a player would, or Thancred's kit for GNB. It's almost like they are on a Gambit Macro system so actions are used under certain conditions, which would not be the case if a player was actually controlling them. I still believe and experience trusts to be working better than Squadrons, so to each their own.

[MomomiMomi]

Must be playing a different game then, never really saw her spamming low tier attacks at all, they were all high tier (Fire IV, Blizzard IV, Thunder IV, Tornado, Water IV etc) but the damage of them was not as high as you would expect.

The AI have specific kits to use in their scripts, so Alisae isn't going to use the entire RDM kit that a player would, or Thancred's kit for GNB. It's almost like they are on a Gambit Macro system so actions are used under certain conditions, which would not be the case if a player was actually controlling them. I still believe and experience trusts to be working better than Squadrons, so to each their own.

I suggest you take a look at her again, then. In detail. While she does have tier 4 versions of the spells, she doesn't use them all the time. Only maybe half the time.

I was studying her not 10 minutes before my post.

Also, squadrons clear level relevant dungeons in 15 minutes. Maybe less if you really abuse team composition. Trusts don't get anywhere near that fast. The only thing they do better is having AI for mechanics. But squadrons don't even need it; they ignore mechanics completely, because they can.

[Krojack]

If you want faster play with people. If you want a single player MMO then this is what you're going to get.

[Granyala]

I suggest you take a look at her again, then. In detail. While she does have tier 4 versions of the spells, she doesn't use them all the time. Only maybe half the time.
I was studying her not 10 minutes before my post.

Well I've had the "Program that shall not be named" run while doing Holminster with the Trust.
47% of Y'Shtolas damage consists of Fire IV casts (statistics for the entire run).
10% Foul and then various other spells make up the rest, Fire I only being 6%.

Her single target DPS was quite competitive to my DNCs but as soon as you have 3 mobs and start to AoE she falls behind to a rather ridiculous degree.

[Ayuhra]

I can usually carry the dps just fine but I wish the AI would react to me more.

I wiped on Griaule a few times before I realized I needed to stand back when the tethers formed and let the AI move first, because if I moved first then whatever character was moving to the spot I just stood in would get confused and do nothing, powering the boss.

It's a little infuriating to lose because the AI doesn't account for me.

[Ilenya]

It's a little infuriating to lose because the AI doesn't account for me.

I'm not sure they could make an AI that accounts for player actions, being honest. They won't go for you when you have the stack marker against Tesleen, in my experience, unless you move to the middle.

[Ayuhra]

I'm not sure they could make an AI that accounts for player actions, being honest. They won't go for you when you have the stack marker against Tesleen, in my experience, unless you move to the middle.

I'm sure they can. I just want basic awareness like "if this thing is already blocked, move to another spot". Not all fights even need this level of AI, but fights like Griaule do.

The AI out of the gate is impressive but can be iterated on. It will never be on par with a human player, but it can be better. Right now it looks like it's set to follow preset movements and behaviors for each dungeon... Hence why Griaule's tethers messes with it if you stand in a tether the AI was going to pick for itself.

(I heard the Trust AI might be used for Trials later and it will need some improvement to do that)

[Hezzlocks]

In terms of combat, they're a huge step down actually.

This isn't an issue of AI not being able to be as good as a player. The issue is that the combat AI is intentionally bad. I was studying Y'shtola just now. A lot of cool spells, but she spams low tier attacks. The only time she'll spam Fire IV (her second strongest spell behind Foul) is when she uses Triple Cast. Most of her time is spent casting fire//blizzard/thunderwater/stone/aero. Tier 1 spells.

She actually appears to be locked behind some kind of build up and dump system. She initially spams tier 1 spells, but after a period she will cast tier 4 spells of every element once, and finish it off with Foul, then go back to her tier 1 spells. It'd be interesting to see what the programming behind her spells actually is. She's clearly not a BLM, as they don't get access to Aero/Stone/Water spells, which are clearly from her previous Conjurist kit. She appears to be some kind of hybrid job, and near and far as I can see she's the only one to have adapted a hybrid job, aside from maybe Ryne. The way Y'shtola plays, it appears as though she rotates through the Tier 1 spells a few times to generate a resource, then spends that resource to combo through the Tier 4 spells to activate a proc of Foul.

I understand she's just programmed to work in that fashion, but she's quite unique, so it'd be really interesting to delve into her kit and see how exactly it works.

EDIT: And I guess Alphinaud is kind of a hybrid job, too, as he (or his carbuncle?) gives the DPS a damage buff identical to that of Urianger's AST cards.