Why are people upset about the gender lock ?

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

The biggest thing is the fact in 1.0 people were upset at genderlock
and released the fem Roe, fem Highlander and male Miqo in 2.0.
Everyone was happy to be free from genderlock nonsense.
Genderlock is so Korean MMO crap and we're sick of it.

Can this stop?.... 1.0 had a CRAP-ton of issues, you can say Genderlock is one of them, but it wasn't the biggest issue. We get it, y'all want Male Viera, most of us can understand the disappointment....but people need to stop acting like Genderlocks are the Number One reason why 1.0 failed.

[FengZhou]

For me, the genderlock thing is a very outdated design found in korean styled games.

It's never ever been received well in the west.

I can tell they did their best to get things out the door, but the character customization is extremely limited for what they are and I hope in time they certainly expand on it, including putting the other genders in. It's silly to not have them.

[Koreteru]

It could be worse. They could of turned this into Tera, and limited Jobs to certain genders, but be grateful they haven't.

Don't worry though. When the next Calamity happens, and these servers shutdown, and we get introduced to another whole new Final Fantasy Online, maybe then everyone on both sides can get what they want (Genders of either race, Solo content, No more durability, No more level sync or worrying about parties), and can just play how they want.

After all.... Third times the charm right!?

[kidalutz]

Stahp Necroing threads.

[Aldora]

Using the Lore as means to explain the reasoning why we don’t have the Male Viera or the Female Hrothgar, is not the correct way to go about it. The lore of a game should be the basis of the events that happen within the world and set boundaries, indicating how far they you can go story wise and aesthetics.

The team can always decide to stretch these boundaries, if they want to make a point across with the story, or even rewrite parts of the lore based on the direction they want to go with the story.

The story behind the Viera and Hrothgar dates back to the 1.x era, where we only had the same races we had back in FFXI. The only main difference was that the names of the races were changed and that the “Galka lost their tails”. The community mentioned that they hated the gender locked races and they wanted a male “Mithra” (Mi’qote) and female “Galka” (Roegardyn).

When Yoshida took over, he made a few polls (after they announced the development of “Version 2.0”) for players to fill in, where he would ask questions regarding the current systems and future of the game. Things like, if we would be ok if the game/world would change dramatically, if people liked the current jobs and which races we would like to see.

Q2. What type of race or clan would you most like to see added in the future?

Reptilian beastmen (ex. lizardmen, draconians, etc.)

• JP -> 12.4%
• NA -> 8.3%
• GB -> 6.9%
• FR -> 18.1%
• DE -> 10.4%

Mammalian beastmen (ex.) wolfmen, gnolls, etc.)

• JP -> 3.3%
• NA -> 7.3%
• GB -> 7.1%
• FR -> 6.2%
• DE -> 9.9%

Reptilian demi-beastmen (ex. a race with demonic features such as horns, etc.)

• JP -> 11.2%
• NA -> 12.5%
• GB -> 16.1%
• FR -> 9.1%
• DE -> 11.7%

Mammalian demi-beastmen (ex. a rabbit-eared race such as the Viera from FFXII, etc.)

• JP -> 24.9%
• NA -> 27.7%
• GB -> 26.1%
• FR -> 26.6%
• DE -> 31.0%
  

More clans for existing races (ex. greater variation in physical build and appearance)

• JP ->21.4%
• NA -> 21.1%
• GB -> 21.8%
• FR -> 17.5%
• DE -> 16.2%

Races of mixed heritage (ex. Elezen-Hyur, Mi’qote-Lalafell, etc.)

• JP -> 26.8%
• NA -> 23.1%
• GB -> 22.0%
• FR -> 22.5%
• DE -> 20.8%

The community back then said that they wanted Demi-human races like the “Viera”, but also races of mixed heritage. Back then we thought that the main reason why the “Demi-human”-race was selected the most, was due to the fact that they mentioned “Viera” as an example. But, Yoshida said that he didn’t necessarily mean that they would introduce the “Viera” because of it.

With A Realm Reborn, they introduced the missing genders for the existing races, and added the Au Ra with Heavensward. Quite a few people were disappointed with the fact that the team introduced a dragon-like race, instead of the much desired Viera. So, they kept asking the team to implement the Viera with another expansion.

This desire was amplified with the fact that the 24-man raid in Stormblood made us go to Ivalice. A world in which Viera existed. Because of this, they were “compelled” to make the Viera, even though they were planning on creating a different race all together. In this case the Hrothgar.

But, creating not just 1 full race (with both genders) they would have to create 2 races, in order to even remotely satisfy the community. So, with the amount of resources they had at the time, they had to make a choice. This resulted in what we have right now. The female Viera and the male Hrothgar (for which a concept model already existed). As we all could see in the Live Letters, they did try different concepts for both the Au Ra and Viera, with which they tested the appearance of both genders. This would mean that they do have at least some concepts available, in case they change their minds.

When it comes to development, nothing is really set in stone, so plans can change along the way. As it stands, Yoshida mentioned that this would “probably be the last races” they would make. This doesn’t mean that they will never make more. By supplying them our feedback, they can still decide to make the missing genders for the Viera and Hrothgar.

Long story short; The main reason we have these 2 new races, was due to the “limited” amount of resources (time, manpower, etc) they had during the development cycle of the Stormblood patches and Shadowbringers. Not because “the lore said so”.

If you really want male Viera and female Hrothgar, just keep showing your support for it in their respective threads.

Male Viera as a playable character! Show your support
Female Hrothgar as a playable character! Show your support

[Emmanellain]

It's written and explained very clearly in game why male viera will never be seen outside their forest, so why does people are mad about it ? Why does people even think one second about male viera being a thing ?

When I read "SE is losing itself with this decision" I just want to say : SE took a great decision and stayed true to it's OWN lore, you just mad.

I'd recommend you to look through the main Viera thread for the initial reactions and explanations as to why people are upset, this post will clutter the feed and isn't necessary.

[kidalutz]

I'd recommend you to look through the main Viera thread for the initial reactions and explanations as to why people are upset, this post will clutter the feed and isn't necessary.

this post was wrote by the OP several months ago when there was like fifty give us male viera or we walk threads along with beyond stupid insults etc etc etc