Please let PS4 parse our dps like pc

[Hysterior]

That is a request to Sony, not Square Enix.

[NanaWiloh]

That is a request to Sony, not Square Enix.

Well this forum is run and owned by SE so requests to Sony are pointless as its not Sony's fourm.

[Hysterior]

Well this forum is run and owned by SE so requests to Sony are pointless as its not Sony's fourm.

Precisely. I am not sure what OT expects here. There is nothing SE can do about it.
Because they "tolerate" parse does not mean that they will work with Sony for them to implement such system. Not going to happen.

[DynnDiablos]

No thanks. I don't even like these tools. Last thing I want is someone berated me for not doing the DPS they feel I should be. Who the hell are you to determine how I should be handling my job.

These DPS parser tools really just lead to toxicity and nasty behavior from people who think they should be telling others how to play and what to do.

If I am doing my rotation as intended, and following the mechanics of the fight, leave me alone. I play for fun, not to be checking and calculating DPS numbers consistently.

This is why I stay out of Savage content, I don't need this kind of stress.

[galbsadi]

No thanks. I don't even like these tools. Last thing I want is someone berated me for not doing the DPS they feel I should be. Who the hell are you to determine how I should be handling my job.

These DPS parser tools really just lead to toxicity and nasty behavior from people who think they should be telling others how to play and what to do.

If I am doing my rotation as intended, and following the mechanics of the fight, leave me alone. I play for fun, not to be checking and calculating DPS numbers consistently.

This is why I stay out of Savage content, I don't need this kind of stress.

Honestly, if somebody's berating you for numbers...that's probably not somebody you want to associate with, even in savage content.

THAT SAID, the parses themselves do have a place especially in savage content, IMO. Used properly, they help me see what I'm doing wrong (or right) and what I could potentially do better. This might not matter a ton when a fight is on farm, but when you're not clearing (or maybe when you barely cleared and want to ensure you start doing so in the future).

[Rockette]

No thanks. I don't even like these tools. Last thing I want is someone berated me for not doing the DPS they feel I should be. Who the hell are you to determine how I should be handling my job.

Probably the same person who's sick of carrying when they can see quite clearly exactly how you're handling your job.

The personal entitlement by people who are anti parser / anti accountability is actually incredible. OPs request, like every other ps4 player who comes here asking the same thing, is asking for a meaningful personal DPS metre for their own gameplay, not yours. If you want to stick your head in the sand and assume you're doing your rotation as intended, that's your right to do so and this thread is not contesting that.

If you're "handling your job" then anyone who says anything toxic is only just that.

[jameseoakes]

Probably the same person who's sick of carrying when they can see quite clearly exactly how you're handling your job.

The personal entitlement by people who are anti parser / anti accountability is actually incredible. OPs request, like every other ps4 player who comes here asking the same thing, is asking for a meaningful personal DPS metre for their own gameplay, not yours. If you want to stick your head in the sand and assume you're doing your rotation as intended, that's your right to do so and this thread is not contesting that.

If you're "handling your job" then anyone who says anything toxic is only just that.

I find with most of these threads most people are fine with some kind of personal DPS meter, but the threads then get derailed again by people demanding public parses.

[Dahlia_Faye]

Yes, please. Just a personal DPS counter would be nice.
I understand SE's stance on it, but the way it is right now it's hurting players that don't parse.

Good luck getting into a static if all your parses are uploaded by randoms. Right now I have zero control on what performance data is being uploaded about me.

I might be on an alt job or it was a chaotic run. Being a healer my DPS mostly depends on the party's performance and how much extra healing and rezzing they need. If someone uploads a parse where I was rezing and healing the first timers all the time, it won't look good.

[Granyala]

Yes, please. Just a personal DPS counter would be nice.
I understand SE's stance on it, but the way it is right now it's hurting players that don't parse.
Good luck getting into a static if all your parses are uploaded by randoms. Right now I have zero control on what performance data is being uploaded about me.
I might be on an alt job or it was a chaotic run. Being a healer my DPS mostly depends on the party's performance and how much extra healing and rezzing they need. If someone uploads a parse where I was rezing and healing the first timers all the time, it won't look good.

That's not how recruitment works.
People that analyze logs will not only analyze your performance but the performance of the whole raid. They will see that you rezzed, they will see that they ate a ton of avoidable damage.

Most importantly: they will take you to trial runs to assess your performance in a more controlled environment.
We all know random raids can be chaotic.

I really wish people would understand that productive log analysis goes way beyond E-Peen DPS/HPS or %ile numbers.
Sure E-Peen can be a lot of fun on farm bosses but E-peen isn't the reason most raids look at logs.

You are not obligated to reply nor stalk me.

You indirectly referred to me, accusing me of being inable to assess given data. Yes I do feel obligated to respond in such a case.
No stalking involved, I saw the quote per chance.

You seem to be confused on the concept of accountability. Who are you to hold someone else “accountable” if they’re doing mechanics? Are you only parsing when you’re group leader or are you just joining someone else’s group and deciding yourself to hold others accountable? DPS parses aren’t “accountability” but that mentality is exactly why FFXIV benefits from not having them as a support add on.

You're tank.
Lets say I am your healer. I have to do a mechanic and while that happens you eat a tank buster, aren't topped off (b/c I did a mechanic, remember?) and you die.

Now what are the odds that you will hold ME accountable for your death because I followed the mechanic w/o optimizing my play (a.k.a. using isntant casts / stutter step casting etc) and failed to keep you alive?

I'd say 100%. As you should because you died due to my crappy performance (despite me handling the mechanic correctly).

Now I am the DPS. I do a mechanic. I do not DPS during that. My performace is subsequently pretty crap because I have a lot of time I am inactive in. When I am active, I do my schtick correctly, good rotation etc. But in the end my DPS is still too low to beat the enrage and the other DPS cannot compensate for my lacking ability to handle mechanics AND keeping up the pressure on the boss.

Should I not be accountable for that just as the healer in the example above? Why should my inadequate performance be shielded from scrutiny?!
Why should 7 other players wipe repeatedly due to that fact?

SE's stance on parsers is completely illogical and unjust. Part of the playerbase gets to derp however they want and none is the wiser while another parts tiniest mistakes are readily visible and are being punished immediately. Parsers only do one thing: they even the playing field in terms of responsibility between DPS and Healers/Tanks.

[Nedkel]

SE's stance on parsers is completely illogical and unjust. Part of the playerbase gets to derp however they want and none is the wiser while another parts tiniest mistakes are readily visible and are being punished immediately. Parsers only do one thing: they even the playing field in terms of responsibility between DPS and Healers/Tanks.

They are for you, you may know how to use them, but 95% of the population does not.
Sure parsers are useful and fun, but making them into the game will only make their use necessary like they are in WoW.
It will make this game way more toxic than it is now, simply because people will not treat them the same way you do, they will see someone in grey bum kick him out, despite logs being collect at first time runs with not well geared character and people will be judged left and right without context.

For the sake of normal modes, SE wont give us parsers, people tend to get angry over content easier than savage. It will not improve average skill, just blew casuals from the game away.