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  1. #21
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    gman1311's Avatar
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    Greg Eugen
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    Leviathan
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by TThibi View Post
    Week 2 of Eden, i have tokens for actual gear this week, my problem? using said tokens for the gear for dancer. Looking at Scouting set I'm convinced SE made a huge error putting dancer on Bard/Mch gear. Not only do we get the insult of being the lowest dps with very little to justify the insult we have to share the ugliest gear sets with the other 2 lowest dps in game. This in no way fits mine or i'm convinced anyone's image of what a dancer is, or how one dresses. It makes me wonder if Yoshi was doing lots of crack when he approved this mistake, that is the only logical explanation. I feel SE needs to actually come out and say either "we fucked up here's the real dancer stat build, and we're removing dnc from bard gear next week." or "Haha you losers dance in uggo gear, and be lowest dps till you are barred from all raid content for daring to enjoy new jobs *spit*." Either way this snub to a whole group of players is uncalled for. I intend to continue to raise hell about it until hell is raised too. Angry, frustrated and hating SE in an expansion that gave me the one job I wanted since ARR 2.0. Fix it Fix it now!
    Can’t tell if this is a troll, or not? Either way,Bravo!
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  2. #22
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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Hyomin Park
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    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 100
    Has the OP never heard of glamour?

    DNC's rDPS isn't low if you have a decent party, and that's what ultimately matters. And LOL at BRD/MCH being some of the lowest DPS. BRD beats DNC, RDM, and NIN; and MCH is beating those three, BRD, and SMN. Perhaps research a bit before you make silly accusations about a job's damage potential.
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    Sage | Astrologian | Dancer

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  3. #23
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    Bright-Flower's Avatar
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    Nyr Ardyne
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by IzzyData View Post
    It seems easily feasible to me. They are already halfway there, but if that is the general consensus then so be it. However, I must ask what is this reason they can only manage this once every few years?
    If the dev team had infinite art resources there wouldn't be an issue with viera/hrothgar not displaying all helms, recycled models for dungeon/crafted gear, or some raid/tome sets being pallete swaps of the same set from other rolls. Also every time they add new jobs in an expansion that increases the time needed to make sets for every individual job.

    In addition, people that play multiple jobs tend to like being able to share gear between some jobs. Honestly I wouldn't mind if they did some consolidation with the melee sets as is.
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  4. #24
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    Hyomin Park
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    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    In addition, people that play multiple jobs tend to like being able to share gear between some jobs. Honestly I wouldn't mind if they did some consolidation with the melee sets as is.
    Yeah. While I really like seeing the AF sets, my Armory Chest could not handle AF sets every tier for every job. The weapons/main-hand tab is already dying enough as it is. And this is from someone who tries not to carry around too many glamour items on them.
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    Sage | Astrologian | Dancer

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  5. #25
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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    On one hand DNC fits the Scouting aesthetic more.

    On the other hand all Ranged Physical DPS (which BRD MCH DNC are) share the "Aiming" set. Though, to be fair, both the Scouting and Aiming set share similar stats, albeit the NIN set boasts higher VIT and Defense due to NIN being in melee range.
    This is basically it. And it's why people thought DNC might share/should share Scouting gear. But them using Aiming gear does make more sense in the long run, since their role is shared with BRD a d MCH.
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    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

  6. #26
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    Izzy Pollux
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    Faerie
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    Rogue Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    If the dev team had infinite art resources there wouldn't be an issue with viera/hrothgar not displaying all helms
    They certainly could have much more art resources if this was something critical to retaining subscription. The truth is probably more related to that people are going to play anyway so lets cut as many corners as possible. Which is fine, but I don't accept it as ideal.
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  7. #27
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by IzzyData View Post
    They certainly could have much more art resources if this was something critical to retaining subscription. The truth is probably more related to that people are going to play anyway so lets cut as many corners as possible. Which is fine, but I don't accept it as ideal.
    You aren't even using the unique ninja gear as glamour, so why does it matter?
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  8. #28
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    Nyr Ardyne
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    Quote Originally Posted by IzzyData View Post
    They certainly could have much more art resources if this was something critical to retaining subscription. The truth is probably more related to that people are going to play anyway so lets cut as many corners as possible. Which is fine, but I don't accept it as ideal.
    If they hired a ton more artists to do the job, then it would be feasible. But there's still the fact that it would be clunky having that many sets that are job specific in terms of gearing multiple jobs. I like, for example, being able to share gear (aside from weapons) between red and black mage. If they made more job specific sets, that wouldn't work anymore. Plus I just like having a lot of sets that aren't themed after specific jobs. For example the dwarven crafted sets in SHB, the Ronkan tome sets, etc. I see no reason why raid sets should specifically be targeted to be job specific. This was actualyl a complaint in HW when the first tier of capped tomestones were job specific af gear.
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  9. #29
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    I would have rather DNC have had it's own gear tbh but have no issue how it is now either sharing Bard/Mach gear.
    Just means i am gearing multiple jobs at once. Well that and i always have inventory space issues... :/

    If i decide to ever for whatever reason go back to Bard, i just re-glam. Not a big deal as prisms are cheap to make or obtain
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  10. #30
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    Sofi Dragonheart
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    Sargatanas
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    Botanist Lv 90
    I think DNC boosts attack and other stats for it's dance partner. Are you factoring in that extra damage into DNC damage or the fact that it is better for groups of mobs than other jobs?
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