Why are white mages allergic to regen?

[Novak_04]

Honestly, I need a reason to cast Solace and Rapture for that Blood Lily.

[Hash_Browns]

Maybe healer should bring it to the tank instead of running around like an idiot

I don't think healers should do that, I personally just think they should stop sticking regen to tanks when they are at full HP. Or regening, and then healing.

Regen is a good tool, but if you aren't using it right then it's not going to be useful in the slightest.

[galbsadi]

Been seeing this non stop in Eden lately, as well as some of my expert roulettes, been getting a whackload of white mages that refuse to use regen, even no medica II when there was a raid wide hit.'

Regen costs 500 MP, half the cost of Cure II, and heals more than Cure II as well (1200 from total regen and 700 from Cure II).

Medica II costs 300 more MP than medica, but with the regen the total potency is 700 compared to 300.

Just... why? It heals so much more for barely a higher MP cost. Even Astros are using their regens more than whms I'm seeing.

Probably because Afflatus Solace costs 0MP, 100% less than Regen, and heals for 700 potency as well, and nourishes the blood lily.

Or because Afflatus Rapture costs 0MP, 100% less than MedicaII, and heals for 300 potency as well, and nourishes the blood lily.

Or because Tetra costs 0MP, 100% less than Regen, and heals for 700 potency as well.

Or because Assize costs -500MP (read: it restores 500MP), infinitely less than MedicaII, and heals for 400 potency.

Or because Plenary costs 0MP, 100% less than MedicaII, and adds 200 potency to another heal.

Or because Asylum drops a basically free regen on the ground, costing 0MP (100% less than MedicaII), and nobody ever stands in it ever, and then you Rescue them into it and the run back out b/c they like dying, so you decide your mana is better spent on Glare, b/c you're not some AST or SCH peasant and you're far more interested in nourishing the blood lily than keeping an ungrateful player alive. :P

[Vahlnir]

Maybe healer should bring it to the tank instead of running around like an idiot

I agree, though that doesn't help the very moment they take aggro as the tank is trying to pull multiple groups. They typically aren't that far away so it takes only a second once the tank stops to take it back, but Regen should be used at the right place and time...and that isn't right before a tank pulls or even mid pull for that matter imo.

[Thamorian]

For large trash pulls

As a PLD (main), I don't mind if healers regen me as I am pulling, makes it easier for them to keep me healed up and I have no issue getting aggro on all the enemies especially since enmity generation has been increased and we have a better AoE rotation. if healer gets smaked once or twice, I don't find it a big deal. One or two hits won't kill the healer.

As a WHM (2nd job), I prefer putting regen on the tank on as enemies are being pulled or before they are pulled. When the tank is taking so much damage, sometimes I find it difficult to spare a GCD for a regen when the tank is taking so much damage they tank would die if it's not a Cure 2 being spammed, Cure 2 barely covering the amount of damage being take and sometimes not even covering that amount of damage. Regen is powerful but it's regen so it's over time and not upfront healing.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Probably because Afflatus Solace costs 0MP, 100% less than Regen, and heals for 700 potency as well, and nourishes the blood lily.

Or because Afflatus Rapture costs 0MP, 100% less than MedicaII, and heals for 300 potency as well, and nourishes the blood lily.

Or because Tetra costs 0MP, 100% less than Regen, and heals for 700 potency as well.

Or because Assize costs -500MP (read: it restores 500MP), infinitely less than MedicaII, and heals for 400 potency.

Or because Plenary costs 0MP, 100% less than MedicaII, and adds 200 potency to another heal.

Or because Asylum drops a basically free regen on the ground, costing 0MP (100% less than MedicaII), and nobody ever stands in it ever, and then you Rescue them into it and the run back out b/c they like dying, so you decide your mana is better spent on Glare, b/c you're not some AST or SCH peasant and you're far more interested in nourishing the blood lily than keeping an ungrateful player alive. :P

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[Liam_Harper]

It's impressive when WHM's don't even need all their heals and have little reason for Regen or our buffed Medica II. According to the forums this was meant to be our "pure healer won't-have-time-for-deeps aaaall the incoming damage" expansion :P

[Evaddaragon]

Because "Regen" rimes with "Pollen". 'Nuff said.

[Hawklaser]

Maybe healer should bring it to the tank instead of running around like an idiot

This brings back so many memories of Whms in FFXI popping benediction. They then either would run around like a chicken with its head cut off, or stay put. The ones that managed to survive being the mobs new center of attention were the ones that stayed put.


But on the regen front... only time I see as being valid to avoid using it is pulls and full hp party. Let it do the heavy lifting otherwise.

[SenorPatty]

Probably because Afflatus Solace costs 0MP, 100% less than Regen, and heals for 700 potency as well, and nourishes the blood lily.

Or because Afflatus Rapture costs 0MP, 100% less than MedicaII, and heals for 300 potency as well, and nourishes the blood lily.

Or because Tetra costs 0MP, 100% less than Regen, and heals for 700 potency as well.

Or because Assize costs -500MP (read: it restores 500MP), infinitely less than MedicaII, and heals for 400 potency.

Or because Plenary costs 0MP, 100% less than MedicaII, and adds 200 potency to another heal.

Or because Asylum drops a basically free regen on the ground, costing 0MP (100% less than MedicaII), and nobody ever stands in it ever, and then you Rescue them into it and the run back out b/c they like dying, so you decide your mana is better spent on Glare, b/c you're not some AST or SCH peasant and you're far more interested in nourishing the blood lily than keeping an ungrateful player alive. :P

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