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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    I thought that him believing that he would cease to exists hints that he too thought that only one timeline exits and that us changing it would mean that he will be gone because "he" as the exarch will not come to pass.
    Again, I'll write more later. But what I mean is that regardless of how it actually works, G'raha thinks that he will be present until the timeline is altered and the single future changed from 'bad' to 'good'. Urianger has the same conclusion when they are discussing it.

    Therefore, by their interpretation, we are still in the unchanged timeline during Shadowbringers and after G'raha became involved in events - the turning point from bad to good future still lies ahead of us. It's only when we've defeated Hades and reversed the flood that he says "that's strange, we've changed the outcome but I'm still here". It wasn't strange before that, because he expected his future to still be there, not yet changed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Again, I'll write more later. But what I mean is that regardless of how it actually works, G'raha thinks that he will be present until the timeline is altered and the single future changed from 'bad' to 'good'. Urianger has the same conclusion when they are discussing it.

    Therefore, by their interpretation, we are still in the unchanged timeline during Shadowbringers and after G'raha became involved in events - the turning point from bad to good future still lies ahead of us. It's only when we've defeated Hades and reversed the flood that he says "that's strange, we've changed the outcome but I'm still here". It wasn't strange before that, because he expected his future to still be there, not yet changed.
    Oh I did understand your point, but the problem is that NPCs are not 100% aware of everything, they too can only speculate about certain things. And that him still being there could have many reasons, one of course being that bad future can still happen. But with all that is happening right now (Varis death, Zenos not wanting to use black rose, Elidibus without the body, black rose production destroyed quite a bit) and with the hint that we have at least put a stop to the flood thus the rejoining (thus the weapon would not be that effective) I just cant see how that bad future can still happen. Of course we still can fail, but that can happen at any part of the story.
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