Forgiven Venery & Forgiven Obscenity Glam

[swiss_Momo]

She was the Au Ra girl who couldn't sing for her elderly master anymore. She was crying in the lower part of Eulmore and sent you out to find medicine. However, when you couldn't get her any to help her, her master, who called her his "Canary", wanted her to become "Ascended", I.e. Turned in to a Sineater.
When you fight her as Forgiven Obscenity, all of her attacks are Vocal and Song based... Meaning She is the poor Au Ra who only wanted to sing for her master.

I know the theory, and it doesn't really hold up. As mentioned, the stripes on her face are exactly as that of a Mystel, and time-wise it simply doesn't add up. The window between last speaking to the warbler and hearing blue haired whatshisname scream as Vaultry tells him to cut his arm off is way too small for her to get ascended.
Also, if you run mt Gulg with trusts, Minifilia will note how Obscenity has almost as much light/power as a light warden before fighting her (There is also her boss title in the German version which states her as being Vautry's consort, but that doesn't have to say much, since it's just 'sin eater' in the Japanese one)

[Daralii]

I know the theory, and it doesn't really hold up. As mentioned, the stripes on her face are exactly as that of a Mystel, and time-wise it simply doesn't add up. The window between last speaking to the warbler and hearing blue haired whatshisname scream as Vaultry tells him to cut his arm off is way too small for her to get ascended.
Also, if you run mt Gulg with trusts, Minifilia will note how Obscenity has almost as much light/power as a light warden before fighting her (There is also her boss title in the German version which states her as being Vautry's consort, but that doesn't have to say much, since it's just 'sin eater' in the Japanese one)

Tesleen turned in a matter of minutes, and someone like absolute dominion like Vauthry/Innocence should be able to turn someone and rein them in faster than a kuribu.

[TankHunter678]

Tesleen turned in a matter of minutes, and someone like absolute dominion like Vauthry/Innocence should be able to turn someone and rein them in faster than a kuribu.

Its a matter of if Vauthry had time for it since with the warbler we hear that they are going to start planning for her ascension. Not long after we get the event regarding the Mystel who has Vauthry's attention.

Its far more likely that Forgiven Obscenity predates the warbler by a considerable amount of time and likely had been fed a lot of people, especially given her relatively power level of being almost equal to a lightwarden herself according to Ryne. It is far more likely for the warbler to have wound up as a Venery... or meol.

[Sigiria]

I know the theory, and it doesn't really hold up. As mentioned, the stripes on her face are exactly as that of a Mystel, and time-wise it simply doesn't add up. The window between last speaking to the warbler and hearing blue haired whatshisname scream as Vaultry tells him to cut his arm off is way too small for her to get ascended.
Also, if you run mt Gulg with trusts, Minifilia will note how Obscenity has almost as much light/power as a light warden before fighting her (There is also her boss title in the German version which states her as being Vautry's consort, but that doesn't have to say much, since it's just 'sin eater' in the Japanese one)

After you talk to her for the last time, you've got time to report everything you've learned about the city to Alphinaud, then he have the time to paint a whole freaking painting of the couple, then you hear the scream. I'd say the time frame is pretty loose and don't indicate all these event take place back to back in a matter of minutes.

[Lewtskie]

After you talk to her for the last time, you've got time to report everything you've learned about the city to Alphinaud, then he have the time to paint a whole freaking painting of the couple, then you hear the scream. I'd say the time frame is pretty loose and don't indicate all these event take place back to back in a matter of minutes.

An exaggeration. He didn't paint the portrait, he did a rough sketch, as he says himself, all while you're running about. This is the same level of detail of a rough sketch he's done in SB which didn't take long at all either.

Didn't her master say that the lift was open and he'd use the opportunity to take her to Vauthry right away?

"Then I shall have a word with Lord Vauthry, and arrange for your ascension."

That's all he said. This eludes he would be going through the necessary channels to have an audience with him and arrange the ascension.