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    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
    Unless I missed it...

    How did Eden cause the Flood of Light? Who built it and why? Does it have Ascian connections?
    Well you see
    We do not know at the current moment who or what built Eden. It is implied to have Ascian connections due to it (apparently as according to Urianger) causing the Flood of Light. Eden is said (again by Urianger) to have the power to affect the polarity of aether in an environment and aspect said aether completely to one end or the other. It (apparently) caused the Flood by going around the First and aspecting all of the aether to the Umbral (Light) pole which caused the aether to clog and a cascading effect then happened, which was the Flood of Light. How did it manage to do this w/o anyone noticing? We do not know.
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    How likely
    That it was build by the convocation to attempt to control the unstable creation magic?
    Machines can't feel fears.

    A shard management thing.
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    Last edited by AkaeiNox; 07-22-2019 at 05:30 AM.

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    You guys are missing the possibly obvious answer on Eden's origins...

    Back in FF8, Eden was the final and ultimate Guardian Force. In Akademia the research papers mention they decided to create being made to fight back the calamity facing them, which they called Guardian Forces. Since Eden was the ultimate Guardian Force in FF8, it goes to reason that this Eden is in fact their greatest Guardian Force made right before the summoning of Zodiark. It's far more likely that Eden is able to control the forces that be simply because the Ascians in the past created it to do so, thinking they could avert their calamity that way.
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    I just dont understand one thing. Why are we traveling to existing places on the remaining world to summon the Primals....
    How does defeating Primals outside the Empty influence the Empty? Wouldnt it be more realistic to summon the from the dormant Ather in the Emtpy to reactivate it?
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    We are going to certain places where the aether is blocked more or less and us summoning the primal of said elemental and then dispersing it is acting sort of like pouring draino down a clogged pipe.
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    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott View Post
    I just dont understand one thing. Why are we traveling to existing places on the remaining world to summon the Primals....
    How does defeating Primals outside the Empty influence the Empty? Wouldnt it be more realistic to summon the from the dormant Ather in the Emtpy to reactivate it?
    Primals are basically condensed aether. We're having Eden create versions of things we've fought out of nothing, and then killing them to release the aether. Said aether is then pouring back into the planet, and pushing the 'frozen' aether into moving. Basically the aether is currently not in motion, summoning and killing elemental primals is setting it into motion.
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    The reason for going outside the Empty is...
    It was explained that in order to summon the correct aspected primal they had to be in the right region with the appropriate element, i.e. a rocky/mountainous region to summon Titan.

    Then, hopefully, after the primal was defeated, its aether will go back into the land and rejuvenate it. So, the mountains and the land around Titan changed back to brown and normal looking after he was slain. It will then spread from there to other parts of the Empty.

    If you remember, after we defeated Leviathan, only the immediate area around Eden was affected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
    Unless I missed it...

    How did Eden cause the Flood of Light? Who built it and why? Does it have Ascian connections?
    Not sure who built it yet, but apparently works similar to the House of the Crooked Coin in that it controls the flow of aether, only on a planetary rather than regional scale. What isn't clear is why it activated after Ardbert destroyed Mitron & Loghrif.
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    Eden doesn't really work like the Crystal in the House of the Crooked Coin at all. The Crystal in the House of the Crooked Coin does not turn aether into static (Umbral) aether, which is what Eden did. Rather, the Crystal in the House of the Crooked Coin acts like a dam or a diversion channel. It was diverting the aether away from the Burn and storing it. The Allagans simply never turned the diversion effect off. Once Y'shtola turned the diversion effect off, the aether started flowing towards the Burn again. The Burn isn't filled with static aether (the Empty) but has very, very little aether (the Void). The Burn has more in common with the Void then the Empty really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zohar_Lahar View Post
    Not sure who built it yet, but apparently works similar to the House of the Crooked Coin in that it controls the flow of aether, only on a planetary rather than regional scale. What isn't clear is why it activated after Ardbert destroyed Mitron & Loghrif.
    It's possible it was a failsafe set up by the Ascians to guarantee the Calamity. It's possible that it's the very thing they've been using in EVERY world up until now.
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