So about that Eden

[Rannie]

Post Eden stuff here!!!

I'll post in here about my own thoughts and stuff after I calm down and sleep... also, Spoilers are going to be in here soo ya know what to do.

[Crushnight]

10char right

so Eden is the 1st sin eater and apparently Minfilia stopped it when she came to the first. Though unlike every other sin eater Eden is not made of light but apparently is light which may mean that there is a equivalent within the void.

If that is true then we could have our way of fixing the void potentially and it seems Gaia is the oracle of darkness so she may be the key to it as well.

Refighting old primals with new skins is interesting but i have to say where on the source did we face anything that was close to Titan's power in a car XD i know these are just names at this point since Urianger states that our memories of other foes are fusing with the primal idea we know. So we probably have the next 4 bosses lined up as Garuda, Ifrit, Ramuh and Shiva. Wonder how Nomura will change their looks up

Tin foil hat time i suspect the last 4 bosses will have something to do with the void and us fixing it now i hope it will be like they have shown with Eden where certain spots will start to have life return and then slowly go outward from there, as this could leave voidsent as enemies for awhile but we also have to consider would the voidsent just eat all this new life up the moment it emerges? Could fixing the void actually be possible this way due to the nature of voidsent or would something akin to the flood of light be needed where if voidsent so much as touch it they transform back?

[Daralii]

10char right

so Eden is the 1st sin eater and apparently Minfilia stopped it when she came to the first. Though unlike every other sin eater Eden is not made of light but apparently is light which may mean that there is a equivalent within the void.

If that is true then we could have our way of fixing the void potentially and it seems Gaia is the oracle of darkness so she may be the key to it as well.

Refighting old primals with new skins is interesting but i have to say where on the source did we face anything that was close to Titan's power in a car XD i know these are just names at this point since Urianger states that our memories of other foes are fusing with the primal idea we know. So we probably have the next 4 bosses lined up as Garuda, Ifrit, Ramuh and Shiva. Wonder how Nomura will change their looks up

Tin foil hat time i suspect the last 4 bosses will have something to do with the void and us fixing it now i hope it will be like they have shown with Eden where certain spots will start to have life return and then slowly go outward from there, as this could leave voidsent as enemies for awhile but we also have to consider would the voidsent just eat all this new life up the moment it emerges? Could fixing the void actually be possible this way due to the nature of voidsent or would something akin to the flood of light be needed where if voidsent so much as touch it they transform back?

Ten characters

I'm hoping the Shiva fight is a tearjerker. A more somber version of Oblivion, with Shiva herself just being Ysayle with decorative ice armor.

Anyway, if Gaia can control a theoretical Voidsent Prime(or if the CT can still open a tear to the 13th), I have to think that the shard could theoretically be restored, but there are problems in the way. The overwhelming darkness would need to be dealt with, either through someone with the Blessing of Light(Unukalhai...) or perhaps Eden/"Voidsent Prime" putting the aether in stasis and seeing if it could gradually shift, the voidsent would need to be driven away from an ever-expanding area of operations-which is so unfeasible that I think killing everything on the shard might be the only way-or they would simply gorge themselves on the realigned aether.

The fact that Gaia and the Oracle of Darkness exist at all, and that Gaia herself seems at odds with the Oracle, makes me wonder if she could either be the start of Elidibus's plan or a remnant from the older plan to fix the shard.

[Crushnight]

Ten characters

I'm hoping the Shiva fight is a tearjerker. A more somber version of Oblivion, with Shiva herself just being Ysayle with decorative ice armor.

Anyway, if Gaia can control a theoretical Voidsent Prime(or if the CT can still open a tear to the 13th), I have to think that the shard could theoretically be restored, but there are problems in the way. The overwhelming darkness would need to be dealt with, either through someone with the Blessing of Light(Unukalhai...) or perhaps Eden/"Voidsent Prime" putting the aether in stasis and seeing if it could gradually shift, the voidsent would need to be driven away from an ever-expanding area of operations-which is so unfeasible that I think killing everything on the shard might be the only way-or they would simply gorge themselves on the realigned aether.

The fact that Gaia and the Oracle of Darkness exist at all, and that Gaia herself seems at odds with the Oracle, makes me wonder if she could either be the start of Elidibus's plan or a remnant from the older plan to fix the shard.

10 laws for characters

I'm most interested in seeing both Ramuh and Shiva/Ysayle since while we fought them it was far more on their terms and Shiva having such expanded lore to her(maybe a mix of Shiva + Hrasvelgr) and be interesting how they are changed.

Gaia is definetly going to be interesting going forward

[OgruMogru]

The markings on the floor of that second fight look a lot like my favourite tall grumpy boy's mask/glyph...

[Listrella]

it looks like eden might be som sort of technological construct, if it is then who built it and why did they build it, most likely the ascians had something to do with it, maybe this loghrif that emet-selch mentioned. also I wonder what is up with this oracle of darkness mentioned at the end, and what is up with Thancred and Urianger keeping this stuff from my warrior of light, she deserves to be brought in on all this stuff after all she's done.

[Bright-Flower]

I'm a bit confused, though maybe subsequent raids will elaborate.

Eden being the first sin eater I can get behind, but why...is it so technological? With Alexander it made sense, the goblins summoned Alexander into a sharlyan construct but Eden isn't a primal made in such a way.

[Listrella]

Well we don't know yet. Hopefully, as the Eden storyline continues we will find out how Eden was created.

[Dualblade]

I'm a bit confused, though maybe subsequent raids will elaborate.

Eden being the first sin eater I can get behind, but why...is it so technological? With Alexander it made sense, the goblins summoned Alexander into a sharlyan construct but Eden isn't a primal made in such a way.

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Remember that Light wasn't just infecting man and animals, it could even infect golems and the like. As well given the part about Eden Prime it may very well be that Eden IS in fact a Primal only to end up being taken over by the Light. We'll almost certainly learn more in 6 months though.

On bosses.

I don't think anyone was expecting Eden Prime as the FIRST boss to fight but it is a good way to break up how things usually go. Voidwalker to my understanding has nothing to do with VIII so it seems to be an original for XIV/this raid.

Leviathan and Titan though, that was another enjoyable surprise. More so since we don't have to worry about their names having to be changed later like what happened in CT (the final boss of LoTA was FFIII Titan if I remember which wouldn't really work English naming wise based on lore). I've also been wondering for a while if the things we learned at the end of the MSQ might lead to us being able to one day safely summon a Primal, and while this isn't that its still pretty close. Ryne is also right in that it is somewhat sad that we summoned this new being only to kill it...which given that we are summoning ARR Primals is going to make Shiva even worse.

...Also who's ready for King Moogle Mog on the First! Me, is it just me?

[Daralii]

I'm a bit confused, though maybe subsequent raids will elaborate.

Eden being the first sin eater I can get behind, but why...is it so technological? With Alexander it made sense, the goblins summoned Alexander into a sharlyan construct but Eden isn't a primal made in such a way.

I feel like it might be a Primal of a sort. We know that Ryne has the Echo, and she was able to wrest control of Eden in a battle of wills. It's reminiscent of Zenos taking control of Shinryu.

I can't help but wonder if it was created by Zodiark when He was revitalizing the world, and then just left to sleep until the Flood disturbed it.

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