People leaving trials/dungeons after leveling should lose that XP.

[ChaoticCrimson]

Yeah, I agree that I don't think this is a terribly prevalent issue. Yes, you have your occasional trolls every now and then, but for the most part I think most players are considerate enough to finish out the dungeon with the group and not leave them hanging. Even if someone does bail, I don't think that experience needs to be expunged. They eat the penalty for that anyway. I suppose a case could be made that such an action is reportable for disruptive behavior, but because the penalty is already in place I don't think much else can be done about it, so it's probably meaningless to send a report.

[Vanitas]

This request drips with spite.

[Nixxe]

I'll really never understand just how selfish and vindictive you have to be to propose something like this. DF is based on free association. If someone wants to leave, oh well. I always complete runs, personally, but if other people feel differently, that's their business. No reason to be spiteful and petty over it.

[Jimmymagic]

Dunno, they killed those mobs and bosses with you so they earned that loot/xp. They were penalized with the a withdraw penalty.

First time I agree with _arn here.

[Kaethra]

I'll really never understand just how selfish and vindictive you have to be to propose something like this. DF is based on free association. If someone wants to leave, oh well. I always complete runs, personally, but if other people feel differently, that's their business. No reason to be spiteful and petty over it.

Like I said, creepers gonna creep.

I mean seriously. There's already a penalty. Its good enough, and arguably could be debated on whether or not it is needed either. But these players are taking it to a new level. They look at the other three people in the group and believe they are there to group with them and its an utter insult that they should choose of their own free will that they wish to do something else.

I dunno about you all, but I'm getting some uncanny vibes about it.

[Nixxe]

Like I said, creepers gonna creep.

I mean seriously. There's already a penalty. Its good enough, and arguably could be debated on whether or not it is needed either. But these players are taking it to a new level. They look at the other three people in the group and believe they are there to group with them and its an utter insult that they should choose of their own free will that they wish to do something else.

I dunno about you all, but I'm getting some uncanny vibes about it.

Literally had someone tab out during a dungeon yesterday and check out my Lodestone profile because I called them out for kicking the healer for not DPSing on the first pull, despite the fact that the healer continued to help me clear the dungeon while the tank and other DPS stood around being mad and waiting to vote kick them, wasting everyone's time.

[Cortawraith]

I witnessed such behavior, too.

Instead of "taking" away XP for leaving I'd suggest another fair and effective way:
Make it so, that the Mobs and Bosses in Dungeons, don't give any XP for killing them. Instead there should a fixed number of XP that people get AFTER the dungeon has been completed.
Of course the XP upon completing the dungeon would have to be raised, in order to compensate the loss of individual xp gains.
Also the problem with buffed XP-Bonuses would have to be addressed, too but that would be something that could be fixed (like adding a fixed bonus IF one of these buffs are active)

Sure, there still would be new ways to screw people over but honestly I don't think that these new ways would occur too often, since they would borderline the forbidden section (resulting in reports, penalties, etc.)

[Adventica6]

You can't force someone to stay, they did not sign a legal document. Yes it's annoying but it doesn't happen that often. Toughen up a little bit and move on. Also they could just log out and get zero penalty, my personal favorite.

[Bright-Flower]

I witnessed such behavior, too.

Instead of "taking" away XP for leaving I'd suggest another fair and effective way:
Make it so, that the Mobs and Bosses in Dungeons, don't give any XP for killing them. Instead there should a fixed number of XP that people get AFTER the dungeon has been completed.
Of course the XP upon completing the dungeon would have to be raised, in order to compensate the loss of individual xp gains.
Also the problem with buffed XP-Bonuses would have to be addressed, too but that would be something that could be fixed (like adding a fixed bonus IF one of these buffs are active)

Sure, there still would be new ways to screw people over but honestly I don't think that these new ways would occur too often, since they would borderline the forbidden section (resulting in reports, penalties, etc.)

I'm against this. The if someone has to go for legit reasons they don't get anything for their time. Not to mention vote abandons.

This isn't a problem that occurs often enough to really make sweeping changes to dungeon exp over.

[Vahlnir]

Yeah...how about no. Horrible idea. The time penalty for leaving is more than enough.