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    Boomsmash's Avatar
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    Arasgar Horo
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    Brynhildr
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    That downtime is why I'm a fan of giving WHM and SCH their own mechanic they can do during downtime, like how you can play with the cards on AST. A Mudra-ish Tactics system for SCH that has you do different debuffs to the enemy was one idea I had for SCH's downtime, though for WHM all I can think of is more utility type things, like giving them the ability to buff secondary stats using an Elemental system like how AST used to be able to do with the old cards.
    Not unless they give AST back their actual card system rather than a clunky "try and layer on damage buffs" setup first.

    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Sorry, I just get really annoyed by people complaining about the DPS portion most of the time when we have other things that feel more important that need adjusting. If we complain about the DPS only, the things that really need changing could get overlooked. The DPS part is the last thing that should be looked at.
    Oh, we're able to complain about more than one thing at a time. Hearing stories of WHM being 3k DPS above AST means something is seriously screwed up.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Boomsmash View Post
    Oh, we're able to complain about more than one thing at a time. Hearing stories of WHM being 3k DPS above AST means something is seriously screwed up.
    WHM has little to no utility, so I'm assuming they decided to make their damage high to compensate. AST by comparison has the highest utility of the 3 healers, so its DPS being pretty bad makes sense from a balance standpoint.
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    Miiu's Avatar
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    Shila Lail
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    Shiva
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    WHM has little to no utility, so I'm assuming they decided to make their damage high to compensate. AST by comparison has the highest utility of the 3 healers, so its DPS being pretty bad makes sense from a balance standpoint.
    What utility does AST have now compared to what it had in Stormblood? The average rdps increase of around 700? That still leaves it way below what a whm can do. Without them bringing any "Utility" to the group.
    Don't get me wrong I don't really care about DPS and I don't care that WHM can dish out the most damage right now. I am just saying that AST should then bring something else to the table but now that every card is a balance SE basically wants a AST to just bring a dps increase to the group.

    I'd be fine if SE took away every DPS skill on a healer but then at least gave something to compensate and make the job fun again.

    Heck honestly I wouldn't even know what Utility I'd give an AST at the moment. When playing AST in the beginning I always enjoyed saving up an ewer card just to give someone struggling with mp a little boost or use it myself. But it seems everything seems to have gotten easier. As of right now there is no challenge to playing a healer. No real resource management because we're not really challenged. We have too many tools for not enough situations to use them outside of Wall to Wall pulls in dungeons but that'll go away at some point. MP management is non existent unless you have people suiciding left and right. But that would be more of a fringe case.

    The whole situation screams that SE doesn't have a solid plan in place for healers. And no it isn't that their plan just looks different from what the community wants.
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    Last edited by Miiu; 07-22-2019 at 06:41 PM.