Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[grinkdaboy]

of course you wouldn't because that would sink your entire argument

[JohnSpawnVFX]

of course you wouldn't because that would sink your entire argument

If anything, most of the time they only listen to the Japanese and barely heed any western suggestions.

[Gwenorai]

If anything, most of the time they only listen to the Japanese and barely heed any western suggestions.

Don't they say differently, haha. Like in the Japanese forum? I'm sure they do. Everyone has those people no matter where they're from who complain that the Devs aren't listening because 'insert reason regarding something that doesn't make logical sense from a business standpoint.' Ah, it just brings us together. I wipe a single tear from my eye, knowing this.

[reivaxe]

of course you wouldn't because that would sink your entire argument

... What?

Lets walk through this.
This is what you're saying ..

i'm pretty confident that we're going to get them as the japanese are beholden to the western audience since we are vastly more profitable than their own domestic audience. it's why we even got the hrothgar.

As in, you think that they added in Hrothgar souly because "the West" wanted it and because we're more profitable. You literally said they're "beholden" to us and apparently do what we want. So you think that w/e number of players that get vocal about this topic in the West will force them to add them?

Which is funny ... cause I have no clue what they've done that's been credited to appeasing any side of the world only. Like, wut?

And I can't know what JPN wants as I don't speak or read JPN.

Here's what I can say though. This is what they had to say about adding Hrothgar ...

"After seeing the positive reception of the Lupin characters we introduced in Stormblood, we concluded that, for the long-term health of FFXIV, it was important to implement a greater variety of character types beyond the traditionally beautiful in a future expansion. In truth, we had considered adding more beastly characters long before, and since this was possibly our last chance to do so, we decided that we should—much like we did with the Viera—in the interests of expanding the lore and the choices available to players."

(Looking at HW concept art that seems about right. They had hella beastly art for the race that would become scaley bois and gals.)

"Character creation is about providing players with options, and while there’s no telling how many people will utilize these options, we also believe that there is value simply in having them exist—in empowering people to fill the world with greater variety."

"We don’t really need any more cute or sweet looking characters because we have so many as it is.

Especially for FF14, we have many symbols of power or strength such as Highlander and Roegadyns. We wanted something more animal like. Its not that we wanted to create a wild west of characters, but we do need a good variety. So the simple answer is: Viera was sought after so we had to add those. To expand the game and its options, we also wanted to add Hrothgar.”

"We think that an MMO is a game that people with different perspectives can play it worldwide. Final Fantasy games are games that have beautiful characters, but in the same fashion as in FFX, there are races that look rather stronger. I always use “Guin Saga” as an example. Since we are making a fantasy game, we wanted to give spotlight to that aspect, as well. We thought: “Why add more handsome races… even if we do, the biggest difference will be the ears…”. This time, our motive was the voices of players talking about wanting Lupins which were based on the sketch of a “basic wolfman” and released in 4.0. "

These are the reasons we're given.

[grinkdaboy]

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of course they'd never outright say so about the western audience. it's a huge pride thing. look up tom kalinske and sega. viera being a bone for the jp audience and hrothgar a bone for the western audience makes the most sense. hrothgar aren't cute so they wouldn't be very desirable to the majority of japanese people if they were the only race released. i know a very small minority of people would be happy to have them