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  1. #41
    Player
    Enla's Avatar
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    Crushing Fatigue
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Highest form of praise I can get as a healer is being given commendations at the end. That said if a RDM or SMN wants to help with rez duties/cure the tank while I'm trying to prevent a wipe I'm not going to be mad. Just don't do it when everything is otherwise in control. I'd rather you focus on your DPS.
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  2. #42
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    NessaWyvern's Avatar
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    Nessa Goddessly
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    Ravana
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    Conjurer Lv 96
    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    It's one thing for you to spot heal a tank/the party if you've had to pick up the healer and are waiting for them to raise. It's quite another if the healer isn't even dead but you're taking it upon yourself to Vercure people instead of killing things faster (which would be a far better mitigative tool anyways).
    That being said, as a healer main who also plays RDM, I can usually tell if a healer can't, or won't heal someone in time, in which I'd throw out a heals as RDM. A dead dps does less damage than a RDM who Vercures during their dualcast :P
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    Last edited by NessaWyvern; 07-21-2019 at 04:32 PM.

  3. #43
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    Hash_Browns's Avatar
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    Hash Browns
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by zar View Post
    All my Rescues are with the intent of killing someone.
    Nourishment for the Blood Lily.
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  4. #44
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    Granyala's Avatar
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    Ifalna Sha'yoko
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    Cerberus
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lilseph View Post
    I can see how this can be dreadful for a healer, as they can perceive it as if they weren't good enough at their job. Having the RDM/SMN helping with rezzes is one thing, but healing? That kinda stings.
    This makes 0 sense and I am talking to you as a healing main.

    There is only one reason that a Hybrid DPS is forced to heal: people take tons of avoidable damage (b/c the non avoidable stuff in Dungeons is, again, beyond pathetically low). If I am GCD capped and cannot save rear ends of incompetent people, I welcome DPS players with situational awareness and the willingness to sacrifice DPS in order to save a team mate with open arms.
    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZYSTAR View Post
    It's a bit touchy with healers right now, given how much SE has shat on us this expansion.
    Care to elaborate on that?
    I've read a few complaints but to be honest: healing doesn't feel any different to me compared to Stormblood.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    Pretty much what Moonfish said. We get sarcastic remarks often enough that its super easy to mistake genuine compliments as just more sarcasm.
    I feel left out... I want to get sarcastic comments too!
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    Last edited by Granyala; 07-21-2019 at 04:54 PM.

  5. #45
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    I have no love for healers then I do anyone else really. Hell I have more love for monks and other DPS since we're always the butt of every joke ever. Healers and tanks get babied too much in my opinion. But eh what do I know. On the topic at hand tho, who gets mad at a " good job" Seriously? Have people gotten THAT thin skinned? If they get offended about something like that then I don't even know. Tho text is odd tho since you can't read emotions but I've never seen someone say that sarcasticly before. I HAVE seen people just be flat out dicks. So whenever I say Good job I mean it. Tho with the amount of judgey and bad healers I've seen on both my monk AND breako... me sayign good job to any healer is RARE at best.
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  6. #46
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    Miminming's Avatar
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    Arclest Aura
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    Belias
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    While i love being praise sometime it just feel like the one who praise me feel they are superior than me... which make me feel annoyed more than happy
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  7. #47
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    Saidosha's Avatar
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    Weissening Blitz
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    I've had a few instances where I've had healers caught in a mechanic with the tank also near-death where I've decided to pop a Vercure off my Jolt on the perceived most beneficial target just to guarantee some safety. It's never meant as a sleight or me trying to do their job, I'm just trying to make sure things don't end in a wipe. If it makes me a jerk because the mob could've died 2s sooner or whatever, then so be it.
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  8. #48
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    Fynlar's Avatar
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    Fynlar Eira
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    Hyperion
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    There is only one reason that a Hybrid DPS is forced to heal: people take tons of avoidable damage (b/c the non avoidable stuff in Dungeons is, again, beyond pathetically low).
    Actually, in my experience, the most frequent reason for this is that the healer is too overzealous with DPSing and therefore doesn't start healing the tank when they should.

    That or they ARE healspamming the tank but it just isn't keeping up with the damage the tank is taking.
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  9. #49
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    Reiryuu's Avatar
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    Imbri Undinare
    World
    Kujata
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    The thing is, many people who play healers would love more tools to do outside of just healing, more DPS options, more buffs... practically anything, really. The fact that whenever we ask for these things we get post after post of knowing our place--- "heal0rz are suppuz'd to heal yo.", but when the DPS and tanks are allowed to heal... well, we're just helping you out right? SE is so oblivious to this it hurts and comments like this kind of rub that right in our face. So yeah, I can understand why some healers aren't too happy with comments like that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Insertcoins View Post
    I have no love for healers then I do anyone else really. Hell I have more love for monks and other DPS since we're always the butt of every joke ever. Healers and tanks get babied too much in my opinion. But eh what do I know. On the topic at hand tho, who gets mad at a " good job" Seriously? Have people gotten THAT thin skinned? If they get offended about something like that then I don't even know. Tho text is odd tho since you can't read emotions but I've never seen someone say that sarcasticly before. I HAVE seen people just be flat out dicks. So whenever I say Good job I mean it. Tho with the amount of judgey and bad healers I've seen on both my monk AND breako... me sayign good job to any healer is RARE at best.
    In FFXIV, healers have been taken for granted at best, and have been otherwise ignored by the dev team. Tanks, on the other hand... the devs love their tanks. As for comments saying "good job" being sacrastic? Yeah, I've seen it quite a bit. Dragoon dies to AoE marker after evasive jumping, "lol good job drg." I've seen some thrown at red mages who jump themselves off of the platforms too. While I don't make comments like this, I have seen them before. So... maybe the community around your server just haven't used it that way.
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    Last edited by Reiryuu; 07-22-2019 at 11:22 AM.
    "Then what is magic for?" Prince Lir demanded wildly. "What use is wizardry if it cannot save a unicorn?"
    Schmendrick did not turn his head. With a touch of sad mockery in his voice, he said, "That's what heroes are for."
    -- Peter S. Beagle, The Last Unicorn

  10. #50
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    Fynlar's Avatar
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    Fynlar Eira
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    In FFXIV, healers have been taken for granted at best, and have been otherwise ignored by the dev team. Tanks, on the other hand... the devs love their tanks. As for comments saying "good job" being sacrastic? Yeah, I've seen it quite a bit. Dragoon dies to AoE marker after evasive jumping, "lol good job drg." I've seen some thrown at red mages who jump themselves off of the platforms too. While I don't make comments like this, I have seen them before. So... maybe the community around your server just haven't used it that way.
    Well, I mean, if you didn't just do something obviously and/or mind-bogglingly stupid, and someone tells you "good job", why is it so difficult for people to assume the comment might be genuine?
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