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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haruane View Post
    I think they have all cutscenes in the inn and when there is a box to check you can check it to see a story different from yours. Don't think the book at the inn would check if you have the requirements for a specific video. So I think no flag is needed.
    And why should anyone who said it works lie about this? (I think my husband tried this as well, but I'm not sure.)
    So just test it if you can.
    I'm not saying anyone is lying, but they might be mistaken about it - especially since, as I said before, it seems strange to give people the dialogue option if they haven't played the quest that makes that dialogue meaningful in the first place.

    The tickbox is to "reflect quest progression", ie. (as I understand it) give you the changed versions of dialogue based on your personal progress in the game by the same mechanism that it uses during the initial gameplay. If "no flag is needed" then why wouldn't they just give you the option by default?

    It's only possible to test it if you personally haven't cleared the quest that causes the change in dialogue for that scene. That means I can't test it out myself, because having cleared the Crystal Tower, the changed dialogue tells me nothing about whether Shadowbringers alone would affect it.

    If Eclair_Xysha hasn't done CT yet, they could test out whether they can get the extra options now while their quest progression state is still "not cleared". (But they're going to want to clear it for story purposes anyway, so.)
    (Something else to investigate, if you see this - what dialogue options do you currently have if you go talk to the Exarch now post-MSQ? Do you get the option to show him the minion?)
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  2. #102
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    (Possible spoiler!!!)........





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    Umm Aldebert is Bae...no one else is allowed to see him and he literally puts himself inside you.

    Think about that.
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  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I'm not saying anyone is lying, but they might be mistaken about it - especially since, as I said before, it seems strange to give people the dialogue option if they haven't played the quest that makes that dialogue meaningful in the first place.

    The tickbox is to "reflect quest progression", ie. (as I understand it) give you the changed versions of dialogue based on your personal progress in the game by the same mechanism that it uses during the initial gameplay. If "no flag is needed" then why wouldn't they just give you the option by default?
    I think that is what they did... they give you the options by default. Maybe it's so that everyone can see these sequences even without having to go through content they don't want to do.
    There are older cutscenes with that option, too. One or two in Heavensward for example, where the difference is if you are "just" the WoL or dragoon.
    But my husband can test it when he's back home. With one of his characters he hasn't completed the CT-storyline yet, but finished shadowbringers.


    EDIT: We tested it. The option to see the "quest progression" IS there, but checking the box has no effect. The sequences is still the same as if you haven't played the CT (when you haven't done it of course). So there must be the flag they use in the normal quest progression.
    Don't know if they changed that yesterday or if the people who said you can see it there weren't right. But now you can't without doing the tower. Sad for the people who haven't done it.
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    Last edited by Haruane; 07-18-2019 at 05:31 AM.



  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    If Eclair_Xysha hasn't done CT yet, they could test out whether they can get the extra options now while their quest progression state is still "not cleared". (But they're going to want to clear it for story purposes anyway, so.)
    (Something else to investigate, if you see this - what dialogue options do you currently have if you go talk to the Exarch now post-MSQ? Do you get the option to show him the minion?)
    I already did it long time ago. lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Haruane View Post

    EDIT: We tested it. The option to see the "quest progression" IS there, but checking the box has no effect. The sequences is still the same as if you haven't played the CT (when you haven't done it of course). So there must be the flag they use in the normal quest progression.
    Don't know if they changed that yesterday or if the people who said you can see it there weren't right. But now you can't without doing the tower. Sad for the people who haven't done it.
    If they did change it, wouldn't they have let us known?
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  5. #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eclair_Xysha View Post
    If they did change it, wouldn't they have let us known?
    Yes. And I heard from a friend it was like this before. You can click the flag for "quest progression", but if your haven't done CT you can't see the CT-options of Shadowbringers. As I said, we tested it.
    The people who said (in another thread) that you don't need CT to see the CT-options for Shadowbringers in the inn were wrong about that. (And I was wrong to believe them at first.)
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  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haruane View Post
    Don't know if they changed that yesterday or if the people who said you can see it there weren't right. But now you can't without doing the tower. Sad for the people who haven't done it.
    I think the other people just made the same mistake - seeing the quest progression option was available and assumed it meant you get the completed version regardless.

    And as much as I think it's be a shame to miss out on what is most likely the intended version of the ending, letting people see it without doing the Crystal Tower is not the answer. If they care enough about the story to want to see it, they can put those few hours into clearing the original storyline, getting the full context of who the Exarch actually is, and why we would greet him with "good to see you awake" in the first place.
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    I presumed that's why they included the Crystal Tower raids for the Itinerant Moogle rewards. They knew they were bringing story in from something not everyone would have done so adding that was a nice gentle prod to make sure as many people as possible saw it.
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  8. #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by GenBroadaxe View Post
    I presumed that's why they included the Crystal Tower raids for the Itinerant Moogle rewards. They knew they were bringing story in from something not everyone would have done so adding that was a nice gentle prod to make sure as many people as possible saw it.
    Yes, I thought that, too. They made the quests to enter the tower MUCH easier and then they gave us the Moogle-event with more stones für those who do the tower. That was more than a hint to run the tower if you haven't.
    Shadowbringers is SOOO much better with CT having done.
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  9. #109
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    Ironically if Emet-Selch didn't shoot him he would probably have turned into a sin eater after getting all the light and teleporting into the rift.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AkaeiNox View Post
    Ironically if Emet-Selch didn't shoot him he would probably have turned into a sin eater after getting all the light and teleporting into the rift.
    True.

    Also, Y'shtola would be vapor in the lifestream still (girl really needs a new panic button). I kept waiting for the other shoe to drop on that one, but maybe there isn't one coming.

    Emet-Selch needed to die, but he did do us at least two good turns, both intentionally and not.
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