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    Quote Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry View Post
    BLM is the strongest DPS in the game, but even aside from that, BLM spells are longest to cast while RDM can cast twice percast while running around in a circle and throw out utility. It's really no comparison.
    Cast twice per cast? What does that even mean? Every cast takes a GCD, casting two spells still takes two GCDs. It's an unfortunately common misconception that the instant cast is the same as an off global cool down. "Throw out utility"? Addle? Or embolden? Or do you mean raise?

    1 the whole caster role has access to. 2 is a 2 minute combat utility which, fair. 3 will bankrupt you so hard you might as well be dead if you abuse it (read, use more than once per minute).

    Now as far as BLM damage vs RDM, yes, raise and embo are calculated in. BLM is the strongest caster / dps because it brings no damage utility while Red Mage does. BLM is generally considered less mobile too, but basically it's as mobile as it needs to be. Neither caster likes having to move without preparation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell View Post
    Cast twice per cast? What does that even mean? Every cast takes a GCD, casting two spells still takes two GCDs. It's an unfortunately common misconception that the instant cast is the same as an off global cool down. "Throw out utility"? Addle? Or embolden? Or do you mean raise?

    1 the whole caster role has access to. 2 is a 2 minute combat utility which, fair. 3 will bankrupt you so hard you might as well be dead if you abuse it (read, use more than once per minute).

    Now as far as BLM damage vs RDM, yes, raise and embo are calculated in. BLM is the strongest caster / dps because it brings no damage utility while Red Mage does. BLM is generally considered less mobile too, but basically it's as mobile as it needs to be. Neither caster likes having to move without preparation.
    RDM has more freedom to be mobile, while BLM mobility is more likely to cause a DPS loss and has much longer periods of not being able to insta-cast things. One of their primary combat spells also has a longer cast time than the GCD (Fire IV).
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    Quote Originally Posted by YanderePrincess View Post
    RDM has more freedom to be mobile, while BLM mobility is more likely to cause a DPS loss and has much longer periods of not being able to insta-cast things. One of their primary combat spells also has a longer cast time than the GCD (Fire IV).
    I never said otherwise; my statement was "They're as mobile as they need to be." You can't deny that their mobility suite has taken a huge uptick; Xenoglossy (2/min), Triplecast (3/min), Swiftcast (1/min), 30s Sharpcast (2/min optimally), random procs, BtL, Aetherial Manipulation are all abilities that they have that can, used correctly, facilitate far better positioning and motion than Dualcast alone can.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    I'm wondering why RDM is the bottom of the caster dps list too. Is RDM raise such a good utility that it's damage must be so low? Do RDM's want more dps or more utility?
    I'd prefer more utility, personally, but dps utility. Embo fix to affect all damage, perhaps. RDM's raise, much as I hate it, is a good reason for it to do less than BLM; otherwise you're looking at "Why should I take BLM when RDM is comparable and comes with a safety net?"
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