SE: Please copyright takedown FFLogs.

[Niyuka]

It’s a classic case of “Need experience to get a job, need a job to get experience.”

Nope. You can get that experience elsewhere, and come back when you have it. In your example, the only way to get experience is to get the job.
I see tons of groups fail to beat DPS checks because they cannot play their jobs properly, WITHOUT any mechanics bothering them. Just plain insufficient skill. That can be practiced one evening in the Stone Sky Sea.

[Taika]

Nope. You can get that experience elsewhere, and come back when you have it. In your example, the only way to get experience is to get the job.
I see tons of groups fail to beat DPS checks because they cannot play their jobs properly, WITHOUT any mechanics bothering them. Just plain insufficient skill. That can be practiced one evening in the Stone Sky Sea.

Agreed. Also, so many people rush way too early into farm parties, when they have maybe one lucky clear and still don't know how to properly adjust their rotation into the fight in question. First practice with SSS, then do practice groups until you're comfortable with all the phases, then go for clear, and finally, do a few more of those until you are 100% confident with all the mechanics and can maintain decent DPS. Simply having cleared the fight does not mean you're capable of decent performance in the fight yet.

[Seraphor]

Nope. You can get that experience elsewhere, and come back when you have it. In your example, the only way to get experience is to get the job.
I see tons of groups fail to beat DPS checks because they cannot play their jobs properly, WITHOUT any mechanics bothering them. Just plain insufficient skill. That can be practiced one evening in the Stone Sky Sea.

And how do I get fflogs without clearing the content, if I need fflogs for anyone to let me into the content?

[Taika]

And how do I get fflogs without clearing the content, if I need fflogs for anyone to let me into the content?

I have never seen people ask for logs for practice or first clear groups. That is how.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

And how do I get fflogs without clearing the content, if I need fflogs for anyone to let me into the content?

Join another practice/clear party instead of going straight to farm parties.

[Noitems]

Join another practice/clear party instead of going straight to farm parties.

This

You can legit just make your own PF group saying your progress and what you want to specify people have seen. Even if you end up clearing and want more experience you can put "Cleared, but still want to practice the fight for optimization. Please have seen enrage." There are people who get into some unlucky groups and know a fight to the T, so putting a message like that is allowing them to join understanding that it's not going to be perfect but the intent is to clear.

When you join a farm party the expectation is that you know this fight completely and will minimize on dps loss and and maximize on dps gain. Failing on those ends makes you look bad and will probably lead into a disband or kick if it's repeated (which most pfs on new content do advertise).

[Fhaerron]

And how do I get fflogs without clearing the content, if I need fflogs for anyone to let me into the content?

I've had countless of groups not requiring that.

Maybe stop trying to get into the top tier groups?
Those groups are for players who have the time and also the experience and fflogs is part of your proof for those.

[Alucard135]

And how do I get fflogs without clearing the content, if I need fflogs for anyone to let me into the content?

That's what clear parties are for. In fact, a clear party will accept anyone that cleared even if they had gray parse. The main issue is joining farm parties [Duty Complete] while you lack the experience. That's where people look at your logs to know you're not gonna trap them.

Furthermore, the practice that people need to start with is their class rotations on training dummies and especially the SSS dummies. If a player can't beat the SSS dummy for the current duty they want to tackle, then they shouldn't join for that duty until they improve. That is the official way SE tells you that you need to improve more or get better gear and melds. This is the first step in building experience.