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  1. #21
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    OhnoozeMyToes's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RowanLauron View Post
    Nope, gotta heal the old fashion way, but the combat isn't sporadic and hyperactive to accommodate for add-ons which is what wow does.

    It's more meaningful and slower. I'm glad for it. The healing whack a mole playstyle in wow is way over done.
    Good to know. I may try it out tonight.
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    While I haven't had a lot of experience with progression raiding yet, I have not really seen a need for extra tools to assist with healing. 80-90% of the healing is on the tanks, the rest is often easily covered by aoes. If aoes are not enough to cover the non-tanks, it usually means a gear or mechanics issue.

    People not getting mechanics or being appropriately geared will almost always be a bigger hurdle than being able to heal all day every day.

    Besides, if you focus target the boss and pay attention to what its doing and the queues in the arena, you can often stay way ahead of the damage and sneak in plenty of your own damage.
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    No.

    Really confused at why people want ways for the game to play itself.
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    Level 80: SAM | SCH | PLD | DNC

    Leveling: AST | WAR | MCH

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    Quote Originally Posted by RowanLauron View Post
    Nope, gotta heal the old fashion way, but the combat isn't sporadic and hyperactive to accommodate for add-ons which is what wow does.

    It's more meaningful and slower. I'm glad for it. The healing whack a mole playstyle in wow is way over done.
    Pretty much this. The combat in FFXIV feels cleaner to me because everything is specifically designed for its own UI and controls, both kb+m and controller setups.
    Of course there are still moments when you'll panic due to people standing in the bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nariel View Post
    I don't understand the question
    In WoW, they allowed certain third party addons to modify your UI and change how certain things worked.

    One of those third party tools was called healbot, for example it let you cast spells by moving your mouse over them, let you map certain spells to left or right click in combat, and gave more info than the base UI provided.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
    In WoW, they allowed certain third party addons to modify your UI and change how certain things worked.

    One of those third party tools was called healbot, for example it let you cast spells by moving your mouse over them, let you map certain spells to left or right click in combat, and gave more info than the base UI provided.
    Oh thank you, I was aware of the huge modding part of Wow, but healbot didn't ring a bell and I was far from thinking mods would go that far on a MMO.
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    Oh, I just remembered one other macro that may help you depending on your background. Personally I don’t like it in FFXIV because you have somewhat limited control, but if you’ve played EQ2 or another MMO with smart targeting it may feel natural.

    /ac “Benediction” <tt>

    <tt> will cast on Target of Target, allowing you to keep the boss targeted but have heals go onto its target. There’s also <ft> to cast on your focus Target (set with ctrl+F by default) which can be useful if an encounter is designed to have a single target you’d want to do something to regularly.

    The reason I don’t like using <tt> is that because it’s a macro rather than a built-in smart targeting system, you can’t just actually target the target you want and hit the same hotkey and get the result you like. There are some ways around this with stacking multiple lines in the macro to “fall through” but in the best case you get spammed with errors and in the worst you heal the wrong target. That means if you wanted to use <tt> and <ft> and the like you’d need a separate hotkey for casting on your real target. To me, that’s too clunky. But it’s an option if it increases your effective reaction speed due to being what you’re used to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivxkobe View Post
    No.

    Really confused at why people want ways for the game to play itself.
    You are actually confused, because Healbot doesn't allow anybody to make the "game play itself".

    It's just remapping the controls, essentially. You're still actively casting spells and using skills. Instead of clicking on a name, you're...clicking on a name. And instead of hitting the "1" key (or whatever you've bound your spell to), you're...left or right clicking, or shift+clicking, or whatever you've bound the spell to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandoria View Post
    I wish there were. Having a grid to keybind abilities to my mouse in this game would be AMAZING.
    I do this with my g600. It's a setting in the game you don't need add-ons for it.

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    http://king.canadane.com

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    Kaethra Tatrinae
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    Was my first reaction. Not going to lie, I thought this might be a troll post. But either the OP is taking the effort too far, or is actually serious. I'm leaning towards the latter a bit.

    So.. lets get something out of the way. Healbot is, in case many don't know is an addon made to work in WoW's LUA environment. What it does is allows the healer to map different heals to different clicks. You can left click with a regular heal, right click for a heal over time. Or any combination thereof. I think it allows alt, shift, and ctrl too, but I've not looked into it in.. probably a decade. You can click on the person, their party portrait, their raid slot, or even other addon's listings of players and such (like Grid and other addons). Its made with compatibility with mind.

    As you can imagine, its quite useful in a raid setting. However. There's one glaring flaw to the addon that has been present for a long time. Dependency. And if the OP is legit, they are suffering from this issue. Because of how Healbot is used, it can cause a detriment when the addon isn't available. It wasn't uncommon after a major patch to not be able to raid the night of a patch because of the healers in the raids unable to patch their Healbot addons immediately after a patch. And as you all can see here, the OP cannot use it in FFXIV for obvious reasons.

    I want to be clear that I am not suggesting that healers that use such an addon are bad, nor that they are any less skilled. The addon automates nothing. It only allows for an easier to use interface. But players have a tendency to get comfortable with interfaces. When they have a drastic change forced on them by a patch or a new game, they will struggle. It does change the experience that much. Some players are more adaptable than others. Some not so much.
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