I know this isn't WoW but is there a healbot type option for healers?

[OhnoozeMyToes]

Was my first reaction. Not going to lie, I thought this might be a troll post. But either the OP is taking the effort too far, or is actually serious. I'm leaning towards the latter a bit.

So.. lets get something out of the way. Healbot is, in case many don't know is an addon made to work in WoW's LUA environment. What it does is allows the healer to map different heals to different clicks. You can left click with a regular heal, right click for a heal over time. Or any combination thereof. I think it allows alt, shift, and ctrl too, but I've not looked into it in.. probably a decade. You can click on the person, their party portrait, their raid slot, or even other addon's listings of players and such (like Grid and other addons). Its made with compatibility with mind.

As you can imagine, its quite useful in a raid setting. However. There's one glaring flaw to the addon that has been present for a long time. Dependency. And if the OP is legit, they are suffering from this issue. Because of how Healbot is used, it can cause a detriment when the addon isn't available. It wasn't uncommon after a major patch to not be able to raid the night of a patch because of the healers in the raids unable to patch their Healbot addons immediately after a patch. And as you all can see here, the OP cannot use it in FFXIV for obvious reasons.

I want to be clear that I am not suggesting that healers that use such an addon are bad, nor that they are any less skilled. The addon automates nothing. It only allows for an easier to use interface. But players have a tendency to get comfortable with interfaces. When they have a drastic change forced on them by a patch or a new game, they will struggle. It does change the experience that much. Some players are more adaptable than others. Some not so much.

Honestly I'm not a troll and I have not healed without the healbot mod. To me you had to either use something like healbot or mouse over macros in WoW. It would have been insanely difficult without them and they seem to build the system on that fact.

That's why I'm asking...I have never healed in this game so I simply don't know how it works here.

[Nedkel]

OP, healing in this game is not 100% uptime job, you also have to do other stuff like for example DPSing or CC'ing mobs with a dmg aoe spell like WHM have.
Depending on healer, some healers has to heal most of the times while white mage for example could dish out DPS comparable to tanks DPS if not higher.

In Wow you are healing non stop, it is not needed in this game (yet), you have a lot of downtime between refilling tank HP.
Alliance raids and raids in general are other story, depending on a team you are playing with, sometimes you will find yourself doing absolutely nothing for a big part of the duty if you want to heal only. There is no need of a healbot in this game, this game does not allow custom UI, developers are not supporting mods in any way because that would be unfair for PS4 players.

[OhnoozeMyToes]

OP, healing in this game is not 100% uptime job, you also have to do other stuff like for example DPSing or CC'ing mobs with a dmg aoe spell like WHM have.
Depending on healer, some healers has to heal most of the times while white mage for example could dish out DPS comparable to tanks DPS if not higher.

In Wow you are healing non stop, it is not needed in this game (yet), you have a lot of downtime between refilling tank HP.
Alliance raids and raids in general are other story, depending on a team you are playing with, sometimes you will find yourself doing absolutely nothing for a big part of the duty if you want to heal only. There is no need of a healbot in this game, this game does not allow custom UI, developers are not supporting mods in any way because that would be unfair for PS4 players.

Interesting, ty.

[Enla]

Interesting, ty.

Can confirm, as SCH I spend most of my time contributing to DPS because my healing is anticipatory rather than reactionary. Shield up the tank -> DPS until the shield wears off and they hit 70% health -> Apply a Crit Shield if necessary and a quick heal -> Go back to DPSing. Rinse and repeat. Even the more reactionary healers don't have high HPS uptime by virtue of the fact that most fights in this game are very scripted. So I wouldn't worry about needing a bot program or anything of the sort as nothing in this game actually needs that kind of program to be playable as a healer. Though if you really need mouse over macro's you can make some yourself using the ingame macro maker.

[Rivxkobe]

- Keep Medica II up when you know consistent damage is coming. (I recast it when there's 5 seconds left on the hot)
- Use Divine Benison on the tank when you know big damage is coming, to help mitigate it
- Cure III is extremely niche and specific situations to heal with it. Only use it when the group is stacking and needed
- Cure II is one of the main heals you'll do consistently on tanks or to top off folks
- Cure I use for minor damage and / or to get the free cast for Cure II

That's a terrible use of Medica II. You should not be keeping it up like that. There is never enough damage going out that it needs to be refreshed except maybe the one phase in Orbonne during the Ultima fight.

Cure is rarely, if ever, of use, and you never need to "top anyone off" except for in very specific situations, and usually, in those situations, a Cure II or OGCD would be far more useful.

Cure II shouldn't ever be used except as a very last resort. You can get through most situations with proper CD usage and using GCDs on Cure II is generally a waste. Also, Cure II is absurdly expensive now in terms of MP.

Edit: I forgot to add that, in situations where you have lilies, you have even less of a use for Cure and Cure II because Solace is flat out a better option.

[Kaethra]

Honestly I'm not a troll and I have not healed without the healbot mod. To me you had to either use something like healbot or mouse over macros in WoW. It would have been insanely difficult without them and they seem to build the system on that fact.

That's why I'm asking...I have never healed in this game so I simply don't know how it works here.

I know you're not trolling. I'm just being honest with you when I said I thought at first.

Though I will say this, the last times I played WoW and healed. I never used macros or addons to aid in healing. My healing experience in WoW was in Vanilla in MC and BWL, all the way through Burning Crusade, some bits and pieces in Lich King, then again in Warlords and in Legion. The latter two I did Heroic raids and Mythic + dungeons as a healer without those addons or macros. It wasn't difficult, not for me anyway.

[Aylis]

OK just forget about how to heal when it get crazy...ill take that out if it;s not clear what I mean.

Is there a healbot type thing or do you guys use macros or do you just select what party member you want and click the spell or what?

I use the in game macro function personally. I just find it to be the most effective and have it linked to my heals, damage abilities and buff's. If all goes well it means I can get through a dungeon or whatever without once having to break target off the main tank.

[OhnoozeMyToes]

I know you're not trolling. I'm just being honest with you when I said I thought at first.

Though I will say this, the last times I played WoW and healed. I never used macros or addons to aid in healing. My healing experience in WoW was in Vanilla in MC and BWL, all the way through Burning Crusade, some bits and pieces in Lich King, then again in Warlords and in Legion. The latter two I did Heroic raids and Mythic + dungeons as a healer without those addons or macros. It wasn't difficult, not for me anyway.

I can't imagine healing in WoW without mouse over macros or healbot.

[ElciaDeiLinus]

As someone who was progression healing Black Temple, and still does more casual current heroic raids as a resto shammy in WoW, I took the break after BoD was on farm to try FFXIV for a few months. On the PS4, I was pretty quickly intimidated by controls and lack of addons, especially when healing.

But I think I've been playing since May (my join date is earlier since I played for a few weeks and didn't like the game years ago), and I think it's highly superior. For one, it's enjoyable being able to add DPS to a group if your party members are good at dodging. The lack of addons didn't take too long to get over really, the UI here is very good and that bit of extra time for the GCD makes it less frantic.

I don't think addons in WoW are a crutch as some others are saying- I think that the UI in WoW makes it nigh impossible to heal, and boss mechanics/telegraphs tend to be worthless. In WoW, I spend almost all my time looking at timers. In FFXIV, I spend most of my time looking at the boss and the arena, because both the UI and the boss events themselves give you all the information you need.

It's quickly made not having addons in this game turn from being a hurdle to a boon, between that and more interesting rotations and ability choices it's more rewarding, and feels more like I'm playing an RPG, and less like I'm following an instruction manual.

I think the most important thing to keep in mind is- WoW is designed to require those addons and to expect them, FFXIV's design is closer to Dark Souls- everything you need to do well is in the game and the encounter design.

The game also really eases you into it- use the tutorials and guildhests, do each dungeon as you level at least once. As I said, I've been healing raids in WoW for a very long time, so I get the dependence on those tools- but this game is better designed to not require it.

[Anienai]

I know this isn't WoW but is there a healbot type option for healers?

I "heard" there is an addon called "Heal the worthy". You have to move the dps meter to only show the top 2 ppl and anyone in 3rd place (or lower) has to dps higher to get healed.


I "never" used this add on, but I heard it works wonders.