Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[einschwartz]

What are the odds, having to heal a newbie tank whom (I suspect) used job+story skip potion PLUS BOTH dps (DNC and NIN) that happily face smacking the mobs beside the tank. Where are your positionals Ninja?! DNC, you are ranged why you need to hug the eaters' face?

I was farming healer gear in Mt Gulg and this happened on my (exhaustingly) 6th run. The first 2 pulls I noticed dps' health got hit sometimes. Only then I realize that after pulling, the tank did not face the mobs away from the party. At least the 3 of them dodge aoe so I only needed to focus healing the tank (which btw did not use any cooldowns) and use ogcd/regen on the dps.

Additionally, NIN got impatient after the 3rd trash and started pulling ahead. Then DNC joined the trash pulling after the 1st boss throughout the entire dungeon, leaving the poor tank trying to catch up and me screaming internally.

Since it was the tank's first time in that dungeon, Boss fight was a little challenging to heal: tank buster took out 2/3 of his health. I put a marker on myself to guide him where to stand for mechanics. We wipe once on the last boss because the tank and NIN ate a few aoe and the former died from tank buster. I got him up and proceed to rez NIN. I died after casting because tank forgot to turn on stance again so he couldn't grab aggro from me.

Oh, the tank did not use the shortcut but instead ran all the way to the last boss room to regroup.
No comms after that exhausting run.

[Mesarthim]

DNC, you are ranged why you need to hug the eaters' face?

Depends. Dancers have a lot of aoes that need to be cast up close because they're centered around the player. not hurled from afar.

[Insertcoins]

mini update.. so my tanking is getting abit better. I hope for anyone who randomly groups with me isn't mad. So far tho I'm getting a better feel for breako, and runs are going abit more smooth.. even was top dps in one of my runs.I do have a question tho... is it just me or are breakos abit softer then the other 3 tanks? cause I sure do feel it at times. And yes I've learned to use my CDs better. That was a lesson I learned the VERY hard way T.T

[einschwartz]

Depends. Dancers have a lot of aoes that need to be cast up close because they're centered around the player. not hurled from afar.

Does it have to be at point blank though? Genuine question because I do not have it leveled. I am aware DNC are more mid-ranged similar to whm Holy I guess.

[Mesarthim]

Does it have to be at point blank though? Genuine question because I do not have it leveled. I am aware DNC are more mid-ranged similar to whm Holy I guess.

5 yards for the basic aoes. 15 yards for Step and Technical finish. Fan Dance III is ranged but is a proc off Fan Dance I (ST ranged) or Fan Dance II (aoe 5 yards). Saber Dance is also ranged but my dancer is only 71, it is based on Espirit gauge.

Yard? Yalm? I just say that as a reflex.

[Pepsi_Plunge]

The AOEs of DNC have a radius of 5y around the caster (so it doesn't work like Rain of Death from BRD). WHMs Holy has 8y. So yeah, in dungeons DNCs actually need to stand right in the middle of the trash mobs to AOE.

[einschwartz]

5 yards for the basic aoes. 15 yards for Step and Technical finish. Fan Dance III is ranged but is a proc off Fan Dance I (ST ranged) or Fan Dance II (aoe 5 yards). Saber Dance is also ranged but my dancer is only 71, it is based on Espirit gauge.

Yard? Yalm? I just say that as a reflex.

The AOEs of DNC have a radius of 5y around the caster (so it doesn't work like Rain of Death from BRD). WHMs Holy has 8y. So yeah, in dungeons DNCs actually need to stand right in the middle of the trash mobs to AOE.

Oh wow. Those are way closer than I thought! Thank you both!

[Khorchi]

I don't know if I posted about this one, but this reminds me of a run I had like a month ago in shisui. I was tank, and the dps was soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo low that the fights, all of them, took literal centuries. On top of that the healer wouldn't heal me on the last boss so we wiped twice, I just ended up leaving. You would have to be there but, like, holy crud it was I think the longest dungeon run I've ever had.

I've had my fair share of bad DPS in Shisui but I don't think anything beats the Levelling roulette I had today.

Loaded into Shisui and get a Monk, GNB and BLM.
First pull and everything is dying super.... super slowly. Halfway through my thought process, the Monk pipes up in chat.
The iLvl 110-120 Monk that straight up forgot to open their coffer after completing the Lvl 60 duty and having their iLvl260 gear in their retainer. Their excuse was they reduced their iLvl to get Lvl50 trials and alliance raids (fair enough, I'll pay that). Luckily they had a host of other jobs at 60 so they were at least able to cobble something decent together after the first pull. But I would be fairly certain that they were STILL out DPSing the Black Mage.

What was the Black Mage doing, I hear you ask?
Scathe spam.
And ONLY Scathe spam.

No Blizzard. No Fire 3. No thunder. No AoEs. I asked if they needed help with their rotation in any way, even mentioning that they could do what most sprout BLMs do... which is Blizzard 3 then Fire 3 and repeat until the heat death of the universe.
Their response was (paraphrasing) "Scathe has no cast time and has a 20% chance to double. It's better damage over the entire dungeon. I'll play how I want." Meanwhile they had run out of MP on the FIRST BABY PULL. When I pointed out that they could hit Lucid Dreaming to regain back some MP, they said "I main Black Mage on another server. I'm a top tier raider. Don't tell me how to play again or I'll report you."
The tank just stopped, probably having an aneurysm after reading that last line from the Black Mage.

I understand the "difference in playstyle" argument, but THIS cannot be one of those times. We would have literally run out of time in the dungeon if they had continued their Scathe spam. If that Black Mage is reading this... FOR THE LOVE OF VAUTHRY... Press a different button.

I don't think the first 5 mins have gone so long in a dungeon before initiating a vote kick.

[SturmChurro]

So I thought I had had one of the longest dungeon runs ever, but I just got out of 'The Twinning' about 5 minutes ago. I'll just leave this here...



No leavers, one who wen't afk for a total of about 2 minutes. That's it. Just constant wiping on the first boss, and on the third boss. The dragoon would only single target adds. The tank at first was pulling big, but I was the only one actually using AOE, so I just said that he might as well just pull small, and he did, but even then it was taking a good minute and a half to kill small pulls, crazy. The boss fights took forever - when we cleared them. Ironically, only the tank was new, when I told them how to do the mechanics after the first wipe, the dragoon was sarcastic, after the second wipe he said he "forgot" that he "gets it now". I'm over here thinking, I literally just said how to do it properly and you gave me a sarcastic response, actually facepalming. This run was an absolute nightmare.

I don't even know why I stayed. I didn't want to leave, because I wanted to queue up for something else right after. After a bit I think I was just way too invested to just leave.

I don't think the first 5 mins have gone so long in a dungeon before initiating a vote kick.

Wow. Looks like we both just had some really bad luck. Unfortunately no kicks for mine..

[Khorchi]

Wha... how th... fjgjgjuug...
Twinning is one of my favourite dungeons to do.
To do it without solid AoE...
I think I just had a stroke.

I cannot imagine the final boss... *shudder*