SE: Please copyright takedown FFLogs.

[Skogli]

If you have no problem with it existing, and still raid regardless of it, then what is your problem? It's not in the ToS or that SE doesnt enforce ToS unilaterally? Please. This is sounding like you are making a fuss out of something you seem to be fine with but arent for really odd reasons.

I dont want to hav to take it upon my self to opt out of being included in third party activities unless it's actually a part of what I'm doing.

I get that you fond enjoy ment in parsers. Good for you. I don't wanna be a part of it. You're saying that it's perfectly fine for me to be forced into it automatically? Just make it opt out by default! It's that simple. I wnt nothing to do with it right now.

And if I ever see someone "abusing" it, I'm gonna send screenshots with complaints. Other than that, do whatever. Dont force me into your community and then go telling me "this is how it is now, you got No choice."

If you think that's fine then think of the implications if it becomes accepted.

[IzzyData]

This is some incredible display of ignorance I'm seeing. I have to wonder what the agenda here is.

[Granyala]

Wordgames like those is why they added "indirectly". Also identifying someone as an individual doesn't mean you know everything about that person, it means you know enough to be able to tell that one person from another.

aiqa (forum avatar) a.k.a. Eleasaid Seraqa from Zodiark just made a rather lame forum post.
I had a laugh.

For the sake of argument replace "rather lame forum post" with "crappy DPS parse".

Curious question: How is it that posting stuff in a forum and divulging your char name and Server is not a privacy problem but having that same char name and server published by FFlogs is?

If you are THAT paranoid about privacy you should not be posting here. You posting freely blasting your virtual data out to google crawlers etc yet bemoaning the privacy issues of FFLogs is rather hypocritical wouldn't you agree?

[Oscura]

This is some incredible display of ignorance I'm seeing. I have to wonder what the agenda here is.

I've always been consistent on my stance that FFlogs should only be used by statics or privately amongst all consenting parties, but you are being ridiculously obtuse.

[aiqa]

Once again, I can see your character name. I cannot identify you in any way, I can only identify that character. Your character is not you.

Ad companies only see my browser ID, and based on that they give me personalized ads.
They don't know where I live, don't know my name, my blood type, etc.
But it's still illegal because it indirectly (or directly, that is debatable) identifies me as a individual.

As I've explained identifying someone as an individual isn't not identifying my name, it's differentiating between people.
And you can differentiate perfectly fine based on characters in a computer game.
One character is played by one person, another character by another person.

[ForteNightshade]

Again, you are free to hold this opinion, but I disagree. This is not even close to the general consensus when it comes to online privacy policies.

You are implying so many things such as companies such as google, facebook or phone companies collecting data on you and selling it is not a privacy concern just because your name isn't directly attached.

It might not be a big privacy concern, but that doesn't mean it has nothing to do with privacy.

Except FFlogs isn't selling your data. So comparing the two amounts to little more than a Strawman.

You can claim it an opinion until your face turns blue. That doesn't make it any more accurate. Privacy laws and restrictions can only be applied to something you own. You do not own the data FFlogs calculates—nor do you own anything regarding your character whatsoever. Everything belongs to Square Enix, and what they choose to do with their data is entirely their own prerogative. Now if FFlogs took your RL name, address, date of birth and etc., then and only then could you invoke privacy laws. Since none of that information is exchanged, it isn't a privacy concern. So once again, you are free to disagree but facts don't care how you feel. They are just facts.

[HyoMinPark]

This is some incredible display of ignorance I'm seeing. I have to wonder what the agenda here is.

You still haven’t answered how this is a privacy issue when it involves publicly available information.

Ad companies only see my browser ID, and based on that they give me personalized ads.
They don't know where I live, don't know my name, my blood type, etc.
But it's still illegal because it indirectly (or directly, that is debatable) identifies me as a individual.

As I've explained identifying someone as an individual isn't not identifying my name, it's differentiating between people.
And you can differentiate perfectly fine based on characters in a computer game.
One character is played by one person, another character by another person.

I want to point out that you’re posting on a public forum with the same information visible that is present on that site (minus the combat log): character name, server—I can look you up on the Lodestone and find out your guild name and the jobs you have leveled. Again, this information is publicly available. So how does it constitute as a privacy concern?

Combat log data is available immediately to everyone that gets you in a party. PC users have a copy saved locally on their computer (which also includes all chat logs for that day). None of this is sensitive information like date of births, social security numbers or even things like addresses that can directly identify who you are as a person.

You aren't asking that in good faith. If you believe that everything that occurs in public can never be a matter of privacy then your personal beliefs are preventing you from understanding anything I can ever tell you. You are free to remain ignorant about this.

No, I’m asking you because your entire argument is “this is a privacy concern”. But it involves public data—so how is this a privacy concern? I’m challenging your stance. This is what we call a debate.

You choosing not to answer leads me to believe that you don’t actually have an argument to counter this. Which means your base argument is flawed. If something involves public data—data that can be readily obtained by anyone—then it is not a private matter. Especially since you don’t even own this data you’re so concerned about. You are free to remain willfully obtuse about this matter, though.

[IzzyData]

You still haven’t answered how this is a privacy issue when it involves publicly available information.

You aren't asking that in good faith. If you believe that everything that occurs in public can never be a matter of privacy then your personal beliefs are preventing you from understanding anything I can ever tell you. You are free to remain ignorant about this.

[Kuroka]

Its a fact that only data of registered users should be saved, you might not like the idea but its easy like that. Not found on fflogs? Name deleted from parse.

[YukinoAmidala]

You aren't asking that in good faith. If you believe that everything that occurs in public can never be a matter of privacy then your personal beliefs are preventing you from understanding anything I can ever tell you. You are free to remain ignorant about this.

"I don't know how to respond to you so I am just going to dismiss your question."