MSQ roulette and AFK

[Kurando]

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Don't you guys have phones!?!?

Nah seriously, if it's a cutscene I'll mess about on my phone or I'll be listening to some music/podcast, and this is on ps4 where we don't have the luxury of having multiple windows open like on PC. There is lots to do while waiting just have to find something.

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MSQ scenes are a good few minutes, there is plenty of time to do irl stuff and come back but not moving after several scenes, they getting the boot.

[Enla]

Yes, People being afk in a duty can be annoying, but remember to give some people a little time, after all, RL happens (Had to answer phone or door, kids need something, bio break, etc.). Now as a general rule I give afk's about 5mins. After that I assume they are either not coming back or as does happen are LD and their character hasn't gotten booted yet (some of those do take awhile before it shows someone as offline). To those that do go AFK, please at least type something into party chat even a simple "AFK, BRB" is usually enough to satisfy "most" of us, just try to be quick about it.

Had someone the other day who not only didn't attack any mobs up to the Magitek Armor, they actively stopped following the party at that point and only zoned into Nero when someone called them out for it in chat. Where they proceeded to, again, sit on their hands and not help. I personally don't care if someone is afk for a boss or two. I get this roulette is boring and life happens. However if they don't help at all and are trying to leech, they get the boot.

There's also something to be said about /telling/ people when you need to go AFK in these instances. Most of the time people are generally cool if you tell them you need to AFK for ten minutes because something came up. They just want to be told first and not made to feel like they're carrying you through to the end.

[Zfz]

Praetorium, on the other hand, might as well be a movie. You literally spend 35 minutes listening to Gaius, Nero and Lahabrea's monologues and barely 10 (if even) actually fighting.

In our LS we call doing the MSQ Roulette "going to the cinema."

[foussi]

Yaa afk people can be pretty annoying tho I have never really seen peope like that during msq-roulette.
Important is to tell the other in group atleast "brb" or "one sec" .
But remember guys, parents exist and apparently they always call you during unexpected times and get impatient.

[Nixxe]

13 million at level 79 IS absurd.

It really isn't. You can't just look at the raw number. You also have to look at the time spent. 55% of a level for 45 minutes is only about as good as a slow Heaven on High group if you were to spam Heaven on High for the same duration. The only real advantage to MSQ roulette is that there's no deep dungeon available at the moment for levels 71-80, so it scales and HoH doesn't. It's also honestly not much better than running dungeons. I really only run it to take a break from other content.

[Deceptus]

People AFK because the MSQ content encourages it.

10 minute cutscene, 45 second fight, 5 steps forward, repeat until dead.

Not exactly riveting gameplay.

[CazzT]

I don’t like MSQ roulette to but since it gives a fair amount of exp I do. With that I need to respect the others 7 players in the party. And stay AFK and trying to get the exp is unacceptably. And the number of ppl doing that is getting bigger, so I hope SE start to think in some punishment to prevent those players to do that.

It's not like people haven't been saying this will happen. Make a bad change, the players will find a way to deal with the bad change.
Instead of punishing people for dealing with a horrible change, reverse the horrible change. This was never a problem when the cutscenes could be skipped.

"But teh new plaeyrses!" There's been plenty of suggestions that would favor the new players without hindering or impacting people who have already passed that point of the MSQ.
"No xpeez or rewardses then!" MSQ roulette had XP and rewards before the asinine change. Put them back to that level.

But we've been round and round this merry-go-round since Jan/Feb of 2018 when they put this change in.


TLDR: Don't punish people for finding a way around a bad change. Fix the problem and people won't feel inclined to find a way around the problem.

[Laerune]

Easy way to fix this would be make the encounters a bit harder, something similiar to raids. Atleast this way, people will have to participate.

[Macleod]

The only time I afk is during cutscenes, but I make sure I'm back before they end. I guess I never really understood why people afk indefinitely. I mean, I get not wanting to put the effort in, but it's more beneficial to help the dungeon go faster by staying active.

Yeah, sadly I've had several runs lately where I complain about the afk-er(s) and try to kick, and I tend to get a couple people that always say something stupid like "It's only MS roulette, no big deal" and things like that...and then I remind them if we were all so selfish as the afk leeches, we'd never get to the end and the instance would time out with no rewards. So, yes, it is a big deal.

I'm going to alter an old saying from a game I used to play where "Q" was the default auto attack button...we used to say "Press Q to Play"...now I'm going to say "Press Queue to Play, NOT AFK!"

[Warlyx]

i play with sound on background , so when a cs happens alt tab once u hear the "cling" of battle starting back to the game...and yeah praetorium is insane ...80% of the time u are in a CS , is good exp no doubt , but soooooo boring but is almost 0 work

FFXIV needs more ways to level alts jobs or at least more fun ways , make sidequests based on jobs or add the new game+ already something!

tired of doing labyrinth and castrum everyday