[SPOILERS] No one seems to be talking about that OTHER huge event

[Jennah]

I'm not sure Varis is actually dead. I hope not anyway, he's so much more of an interesting character than his son.
What I hope for? Varis struggles to his feet, pointing at Gaius and Estinien: "Guards, arrest these men. You all saw it - they just attacked the Emperor and murdered my son!"

[Alleluia]

We seem to have broken its spacetime-travel core in the Twinning though.

I love the Twinning. Wasn't that contraption an Ironworks alteration layered on the tower? We have Cid, Nero, NOAH, and datalogs, among other resources. And now a world that isn't in the grip of chaos and calamity. I think repairing it is doable. (Probably?)

From what I understand, it was the Ancients themselves that caused the first Calamity by continuously tapping into the aether to create things. I can't remember the exact explanation given by Emet-Selch, just that the constant creation eventually did something to the elements. Someone with a better understanding of this can explain it better than me.

I'm sure that's a theory running around. I wouldn't be surprised if them abusing creation magic was what did it. But we still don't know what the *it* was. We do know that countering it required creating something that embodied what they wished to be the will of the star. That implies to me that there was another will that was being countered.

That's just a theory, though. It *could* have been a natural disaster type thing, though I still think it'd be weird if it was coming from both underground and space if that was the case. But ether way, if Zodiark gets removed from the equation, he is very likely to take any magical safeguards he's responsible for maintaining with him. If he's why the ancient calamity is neutralized, it could very well come back once he's gone.

[KageTokage]

It is a little muddling currently as to whether the ancients truly brought their own demise or if there was some malign force involved.

Some of the random NPCs whispered about some hearing a "noise" before their creation attempts went awry, but it may have simply been a rumor. However, when they mention how volatile the creation process is and that even a single stray thought can throw things off horribly, it seems plausible that the mere paranoia of a coming calamity may have started causing some of the more imaginative ancients to unintentionally create disasters, which would inevitably snowball as the fear and rumors spread throughout the populace.

Considering the mess that happened in post-MSQ dungeon, it seems like life-threatening creation accidents weren't exactly uncommon in their society (Especially with the clerk being so non-chalant and basically saying "Just another day at work for us." afterward"

[dragoelete]

honestly even if the calamity does come back it wouldnt be able to do much as we cant use creation magic anyway(which is what made it so dangerous there ability to use creation magic just made more and more enemies spawn)

[KageTokage]

honestly even if the calamity does come back it wouldnt be able to do much as we cant use creation magic anyway(which is what made it so dangerous there ability to use creation magic just made more and more enemies spawn)

That could change if we end up becoming "complete" by the end of the 6.0 MSQ.

I feel like Eden is likely going to shed more light on our ties to the ancients due to it almost certainly something of their creation, plus it was suggested we'd be using its power to undo the damage from the Flood so the First can truly recover.

[LineageRazor]

I, personally, think it's premature to pronounce Varis dead. It's not as though there's nobody around to prevent Zenos from double-tapping his dear old dad - Gaius is on the scene, and clearly has loyalty toward the Emperor. He might not be able to defeat Zenos directly in combat, but it's certainly possible he may be able to make off with an injured Varis. IMO, they still need to explain Varis's out-of-character crazyfase at the end of 3.5. :P

I'm also puzzled with Elidibus's defeat at Zenos's hands. Even if Zenos beat him to a pulp, what reason would Elidibus have to vacate his body? If Zenos outright kills him, he can just go find another body, no? And leave Zenos with an unusable corpse? I guess we'd need to know exactly what happened during the confrontation... Maybe Zenos has the power to shore up a corpse, just as the Ascians do. Maybe he DID kill Elidibus!Zenos, waited for the Ascian inside to vamoose, and then moved in to the pile of meat, stitching it together afterwards.

All in all, I continue to be disappointed by Zenos's character, which is odd. He's pretty much Kefka - but I love Kefka. Maybe because Kefka's hilarious, in addition to being a one-note murderous lunatic.

[Theodric]

I'm not sure Varis is actually dead. I hope not anyway, he's so much more of an interesting character than his son.
What I hope for? Varis struggles to his feet, pointing at Gaius and Estinien: "Guards, arrest these men. You all saw it - they just attacked the Emperor and murdered my son!"

Neither Gaius or Varis appeared to have any beef with one another during their exchange. If he did somehow survive it'd make more sense for him to retreat with the pair, lick his wounds and work out a method of bringing stability to Garlemald with their aid, softening his methods and attitude as a consequence of traveling alongside them.

He loathes Zenos and does not want him anywhere near the throne. It'd be incredibly out of character for him to side with Zenos or try to bargain with him.

As for Varis, as much as I like him due to having a similar honourable streak to that of his close friend Regula, I'm pretty sure that he's dead. By the time we see him in the scene he has been stabbed once already by Zenos - and although he pulls the blade out and snaps it in the process he's shown to be struck a second time before the camera cuts out. They can't show a high level of gore but the blade was aimed at Varis' head - and Gaius immediately rushes Zenos in anger.

[YianKutku]

I, personally, think it's premature to pronounce Varis dead. It's not as though there's nobody around to prevent Zenos from double-tapping his dear old dad - Gaius is on the scene, and clearly has loyalty toward the Emperor.

To be fair, Zenos already double-tapped Varis. As in Gaius and Estinien burst in on Zenos already having stabbed Varis through the chest, then after some speechifying on Varis's part, Varis pulls the sword out of his body (breaking it in the process), then Zenos just slashes down with the broken sword, implied to be the killing blow.

So if Varis survived, he would have to join Gaius in the ranks of Men Literally Too Angry Arrogant To Die.

[Nalien]

Some of the random NPCs whispered about some hearing a "noise" before their creation attempts went awry, but it may have simply been a rumor.

Honestly I found that most troubling, just because of the possible implications... A calamitous "noise" bringing about the Final Days? Wonder if that might Echo through the ages...

[EdwinLi]

Honestly I found that most troubling, just because of the possible implications... A calamitous "noise" bringing about the Final Days? Wonder if that might Echo through the ages...

I still hold my theory that there is a "Source" that started it but they just could not find it.

Maybe the Noise was that Source but whatever it was remains a mystery.

There is still also the matter of the Original Will of the Planet before Zodiark and Hydealyn was created to replace it and why it suddent gave up.