[Spoilers] I’m irrevocably Unimpressed

[Lersayil]

So what you're saying is. Oh, this race is superior to us in every single way, thus we must bow down and take our beatings like the good little insignificant sapients we are.

I guess by this means by a fashion that every single movie where Aliens come to harvest humans for their own means so they can continue living is fine and dandy. And they're certainly not evil for harvesting our lovely life essence to use as fertilizer. Remember folks, next time we have another war of the worlds, to roll over and show your tender tummy to our alien overlords.

Mate, what you're spewing out is called 'elitism.'

The fact that they are clearly superior doesn't make them right, it merely makes them less wrong from our perspective. If they were just a slightly more developed human civilization (say Allagan), it would be pretty easy to call their argument bullshit. As things stand their agenda is still clearly detrimental to our existance, but yeah, they have SOME good points to make behind all the horrible crap they are doing.

On the other hand, from their perspective its a pretty convincing argument why they see their acts as justified (given that their superiority is a fact).

And their world is already dead, ours is not.

Should we sacrifice humanity to resurrect Cthulu?

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn brother!

[Kallera]

And their world is already dead, ours is not.

Should we sacrifice humanity to resurrect Cthulu?

Is humanity so important as to keep Cthulu asleep, simply by virtue that for a brief period of time, amidst the ground of their dominion shrinking under their feet, they delude themselves to be the masters of the world?

[Seraphor]

Is humanity so important as to keep Cthulu asleep, simply by virtue that for a brief period of time, amidst the ground of their dominion shrinking under their feet, they delude themselves to be the masters of the world?

Let Cthulu have a lie in, in a blink of an eye for him we'll have lived for centuries and destroyed ourselves anyway.

[Kallera]

Let Cthulu have a lie in, in a blink of an eye for him we'll have lived for centuries and destroyed ourselves anyway.

while id agree with this, surely there is something else behind the Ascians' haste if they are this close to bringing zodiark back, and yet they have the benefits of immortality to wait... I wonder what Elidibus is thinking now that he is the only one left. despite Emet-Selch's death he seems to be staying the course.

[Seraphor]

while id agree with this, surely there is something else behind the Ascians' haste if they are this close to bringing zodiark back, and yet they have the benefits of immortality to wait... I wonder what Elidibus is thinking now that he is the only one left. despite Emet-Selch's death he seems to be staying the course.

They might be technically immortal, but they're clearly not immune to feeling impatient.
Unlike Cthulu, who is far above such base emotions.

If we're level 1 (now level 9) Ascians are level 14, Cthulu is level 99.

Maybe whatever caused the Amaurotian apolcalypse... was superior to them and therefore.. correct?

[DarkEiraStar]

I don't think the Ascians have any choice but to try to release Zodiark. He did temper them.

[Relmitos]

It's not like the bad guys haven't "won" plenty during the storyline.

While we may have ultimately defeated Emet-Selch, they had plenty of victories along the way. I mean, the entire reason we are on the First at all is because of Emet-Selch successfully manipulating things to cause a Flood of Light there.

And think about if they did win... all of creation would be destroyed and it would be back to how it was in Amaurot... everyone looks the same and everyone is 100% controlled and dictated by a absolute authority-wielding god.

Well no, creation would go back to its complete form, Amaurot was just a huge city and not a 100% finished vision, It was created just to show the history from those final days
The world was a lot bigger than simply the city and had nature, elements, creatures.
And I don't think everyone looked the same, they just wore the same outfits and they could alter their forms.
And they very clearly had free will, And could think for themselves, Atleast I think so

[Edax]

And I happen to believe that killing plants is wrong.

Then you should be dead by now, since any method of acquiring food has become sinful in your eyes. And you must believe that all living things are sinful, for they too acquire food to live. This is practically an omni-genocide stance you've taken if you believe it's wrong for anything to have food.

[Saefinn]

And their world is already dead, ours is not.

Should we sacrifice humanity to resurrect Cthulu?

First to clarify, this is not me agreeing with the guy, but, I feel we should sacrifice humanity to resurrect Cthulhu, it might be fun.

[Narangerel]

The main gist is We want to live, no matter how fractured we may seem to the Ascians, we have our lives. Our hopes and dreams and feelings and to be seen as not really alive by someone brooding in a city filled with ghosts of his own making is hilariously hypocritical.