Few questions regarding Warrior of Light

[Rannie]

Ryne does get one echo vision and it's the exact same one our WoL gets when we are trying to get to the area that Minfillia stops the flood. She even goes , " is this " before the screen goes to the vision. Granted she was still being called Minfillia at the time but it still is a vision with the echo.

[Jandor]

When Hydaelyn chooses someone to give the Echo, assuming that person embraces the gift and answers Her call, Hydaelyn gives them a sliver of Her power to aid them in their quest. This manifests as a Crystal of Light, and She can project Her influence through it, sometimes (at great personal cost).

Does Hydaelyn give out the echo? It has been years since I played the first part of the story so I can't remember if it's ever really mentioned how we get it.

I had got the impression by the end of ShB that having the echo is a sign you're a splintered Amaurotine soul. The Amaurotine ability to communicate across language barriers and the immunity echo users have to the bastardized version of creation magic that is the summoned primals seemed to hint at it to me.

Or maybe I'm just trying to make something that seems cool fit where it doesn't.

Edit: and the Ascians at many various points being all "there is much much more to the echo" & "you would understand us better if you mastered the echo."

[TankHunter678]

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I honestly do not think the subject needs to have a soul at all for the echo to read the flow of aether going into attacks. It however requires a soul for it to get the language information so we can understand them and memories of the subject to show them to us.

Just like how so often in anime, light novels, and manga martial artists can read the flow of Ki going into attacks in order to find ways to avoid them or deflect them optimally.

Which makes my explanation apply to Omega constructs as well just like it does to robots, machina, and golems. We are reading the flow of the aether rather then the soul itself to determine how they are going to attack. We do not need to read precise circuit by circuit flows of aether to determine that it is starting to reroute power to charge up its beam cannon.

Fordola's case with the resonance is an artificial copy of the echo possessed by Krile who has a version of the Echo that makes her highly sensitive to getting information from the souls of others. Something Fordola was not born with and did not really have nearly as much time to adapt to it unlike Krile.

As we do know that there are variations in the echo and different sensitivities to different things. With Krile being really sensitive to information from souls, Minfilia being really sensitive to the voice of Hydaelyn, and our player character is decisively well optimized for combat.

[Dualblade]

Ryne does get one echo vision and it's the exact same one our WoL gets when we are trying to get to the area that Minfillia stops the flood. She even goes , " is this " before the screen goes to the vision. Granted she was still being called Minfillia at the time but it still is a vision with the echo.

Once more I forget so many things, thank you. But yeah Ryne has Echo 100% then.

[Anonymoose]

Does Hydaelyn give out the echo? It has been years since I played the first part of the story so I can't remember if it's ever really mentioned how we get it.

As of today, the vast majority of the Echo-blessed we've seen are said to have received it from Hydaelyn, both in-world and out-of-world. Hydaelyn is the, "Hear, Feel, Think" when people awaken, the source of the vision of the Starshower (which once appeared over Silvertear Lake and at this point could be anything). In interviews, Koji and Oda have supported the in-game narrative explicitly. Could NeW ReVeLaTiOnS prove there's more to it? Of course! But, for now, yes, Hydaelyn is the source of our (and many other) Echoes. That said, the Sahagin elder directly credited Elidibus with his awakening, so...

It was originally stated that Hydaelyn was just like, "Aha, that one." and that She had some idea of what She looked for in someone who had the means, motive, and opportunity to do the things She needed done. 5.0 suggested there might be more to that, as well. Perhaps the summoners of Hydaelyn were twelve in number. Perhaps those souls were sundered like all others. Perhaps when the Ascians start kicking Her shins, Hydaelyn starts firing Echo buckshot into the crowd but singles out those twelve especially to lead them, whoever or wherever they may be. Perhaps that's why history always remembers Her champions as being twelve in number.

I loathe the Final Fantasy tropes where we suddenly transcend all tiers of existence and become god or are revealed to have always been some cosmic powerhouse. I like when we become special, and then one day go back to being a regular old human. The perfect ending of FFXIV for me is the Warrior of Light retired, hanging out at the Drowning Wench with a drink and smiling at an obviously newly-formed party about to leave for their first adventure. That said, if the Warrior of Light's Ancient persona was somehow deeply connected to Hydaelyn all along and this was Her hail-mary play to come back from the brink at the last moment, hoping that the sundered shard of Her old acquaintance would pull through, and then we just got to go on being ourselves, I think that'd still be okay.

[Rannie]

Once more I forget so many things, thank you. But yeah Ryne has Echo 100% then.

Yw half the time I've been on playing the game I've been watching cutscenes over and over again between leveling dancer and getting tomes... Well certain cutscenes <.<>.>. I've almost watched them enough times to where I can quote them verbatim... I have no life outside of work *hangs head*