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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sakei View Post
    I'm curious about this. Bioware has always been very liberal with their options. I do not recall these complaints. They have always tried so hard to add options for everyone, I'm honestly surprised there were any objections. 0.o
    If you all want that then go play dragon age inquisition and mass effect or any of those other games they are out there.

    those games are made for taking different paths this game isn't no matter what those optional cutscenes were I seen them as jokes to put a little humor into the game might I say a good damn job of it also I laughed all the way through the game.

    the stuff you all are asking for if I wanted to play final fantasy sims I would go buy that game but it isn't and excuse me if I don't share in the same vision as everyone who wants the options I signed up for a adventure not romance.

    you might chew me out but don't try to change my mind about it id sooner take my money elsewhere than to support a sims game.

    I love this game but not that much lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonx View Post
    If you all want that then go play dragon age inquisition and mass effect or any of those other games they are out there.

    those games are made for taking different paths this game isn't no matter what those optional cutscenes were I seen them as jokes to put a little humor into the game might I say a good damn job of it also I laughed all the way through the game.

    the stuff you all are asking for if I wanted to play final fantasy sims I would go buy that game but it isn't and excuse me if I don't share in the same vision as everyone who wants the options I signed up for a adventure not romance.

    you might chew me out but don't try to change my mind about it id sooner take my money elsewhere than to support a sims game.

    I love this game but not that much lol
    To be fair, that’s like saying if you want a purple car you should have bought that one. Some cars are purple. You haven’t really presented an argument for or against, tbh. Just because Mass Effect or Dragon Age had something doesn’t mean FFXIV can’t have it.
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  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonx View Post
    If you all want that then go play dragon age inquisition and mass effect or any of those other games they are out there.

    those games are made for taking different paths this game isn't no matter what those optional cutscenes were I seen them as jokes to put a little humor into the game might I say a good damn job of it also I laughed all the way through the game.

    the stuff you all are asking for if I wanted to play final fantasy sims I would go buy that game but it isn't and excuse me if I don't share in the same vision as everyone who wants the options I signed up for a adventure not romance.

    you might chew me out but don't try to change my mind about it id sooner take my money elsewhere than to support a sims game.

    I love this game but not that much lol
    Did you play FF7? Did you take anyone to the Gold Saucer? Did it ultimately hurt the experience or even matter which one you took? Optional romance is optional and could be done without having an impact on things beyond itself and the player experience.

    Besides, Emet-Selch was basically Fen'Harel this expansion, so we kind of are playing Dragon Age.
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  4. #104
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    I love how you try to compare humor with romance its funny.

    Also find it funny how people don't agree then you try to force them to see reasoning to try to change peoples minds then insert a "Have you ever" then use it to justify actions.

    I see it a lot on here.

    People aren't for something then they say no thank you or they aren't up for it.

    then get ganged up on by the masses who think its unfair. Guess what the fair only comes once a year.

    Say you don't do that I could pull so many threads but why even try to prove my point you doing it now lol
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  5. #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonx View Post
    I love how you try to compare humor with romance its funny.

    Also find it funny how people don't agree then you try to force them to see reasoning to try to change peoples minds then insert a "Have you ever" then use it to justify actions.
    You were saying that having romance is not something that should be in Final Fantasy, otherwise its "final fantasy sims". I was just pointing out the idea of a light layer of romance in a FF story is hardly a foreign concept (And that's not even touching on romance being an irreplaceable cornerstone in several of the other games' plots).

    No need to react so defensively, though. You don't like romance, you don't like it. /shrug You do you.

    Though, if you wanted to just come in and make a statement that would be completely unresponded to, I think a forum isn't the right medium for that. Back and forth responses is kind of the point here.
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  6. #106
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    I love the post-MSQ dialogue options they added for him and would like to see more like these. However, it makes sense not to introduce any strictly romantic options. While flirty quips like "I'm your rolanberry" can be added, the game simply can't be bent to allow for a plausible romance story, which means any romantic advances by the WoL will have to be rejected. (Queue more complaining.) It would take too much resources to develop a romantic relationship in a believable way, think the dinner with Aymeric x 1000 and more, and that for each available NPC. It could be somewhat pulled off with an NPC we create similar to retainers/path companions, who stays at our house and/or fights by our side and has a few short dialogue lines. And even that would feel stilted. Imagine how a romance with a major NPC would have to be developed - the impact it would have for the story, all the different interactions with the rest of the NPCs, it's just too much resources for a side feature. It would also make some players who would like to know more about an NPC and see more of them feel forced to pick a romance option even if they don't want their character to be in a relationship with an NPC.
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    Pink-haired protagonist: I don’t understand!
    Purple-haired antagonist: You don’t need to!
    – All the explanation you need for a (Final) fantasy story.

  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vayanne View Post
    I love the post-MSQ dialogue options they added for him and would like to see more like these. However, it makes sense not to introduce any strictly romantic options. While flirty quips like "I'm your rolanberry" can be added, the game simply can't be bent to allow for a plausible romance story, which means any romantic advances by the WoL will have to be rejected. (Queue more complaining.) It would take too much resources to develop a romantic relationship in a believable way, think the dinner with Aymeric x 1000 and more, and that for each available NPC. It could be somewhat pulled off with an NPC we create similar to retainers/path companions, who stays at our house and/or fights by our side and has a few short dialogue lines. And even that would feel stilted. Imagine how a romance with a major NPC would have to be developed - the impact it would have for the story, all the different interactions with the rest of the NPCs, it's just too much resources for a side feature. It would also make some players who would like to know more about an NPC and see more of them feel forced to pick a romance option even if they don't want their character to be in a relationship with an NPC.
    I agree with this. I think a fullblown, SWTOR-style romance is probably asking too much for this game's format, at least as it stands. Flirty quips, though? More quest progression-based, more personal options to say? Basically, stuff whose impact lasts in the scene and that's about it, as the current quest based options do now? Yes pls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleluia View Post
    You were saying that having romance is not something that should be in Final Fantasy, otherwise its "final fantasy sims". I was just pointing out the idea of a light layer of romance in a FF story is hardly a foreign concept (And that's not even touching on romance being an irreplaceable cornerstone in several of the other games' plots).

    No need to react so defensively, though. You don't like romance, you don't like it. /shrug You do you.

    Though, if you wanted to just come in and make a statement that would be completely unresponded to, I think a forum isn't the right medium for that. Back and forth responses is kind of the point here.
    Given that this xpac has the most FFVIII references so far a romance plot might be required! Course it'll probably end up in the NieR raid and we all know how well THAT'LL end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleluia View Post
    Did you play FF7? Did you take anyone to the Gold Saucer? Did it ultimately hurt the experience or even matter which one you took? Optional romance is optional and could be done without having an impact on things beyond itself and the player experience.

    Besides, Emet-Selch was basically Fen'Harel this expansion, so we kind of are playing Dragon Age.
    The thing with FF7 is different. Cloud isn't someone you made and could mold into something you want.

    also about the valentines, yeah it maybe required to pick a partner but that whole quest is optional where the msq isn't.

    But honestly, there is no point in keeping the convo going. Since its just going to go back and forth

    Either way, this will never happen so I have no idea why I'm even trying to convince some of you.

    This won't even be a thing since most "think" there is a romance undertone when it isn't since nobody seems to understand what admiration seems to looks like and our WoL isn't attracted to anybody cannon wise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualblade View Post
    Given that this xpac has the most FFVIII references so far a romance plot might be required! Course it'll probably end up in the NieR raid and we all know how well THAT'LL end.
    I haven't played any NieR games, but from how people talk about them, I can guess what I'm in for. T_T

    I have a feeling I'm gonna have to go call the Exarch "G'raha" at least 20 times to recover. lol

    Quote Originally Posted by xxvaynxx View Post
    The thing with FF7 is different. Cloud isn't someone you made and could mold into something you want.

    also about the valentines, yeah it maybe required to pick a partner but that whole quest is optional where the msq isn't.

    But honestly, there is no point in keeping the convo going. Since its just going to go back and forth

    Either way, this will never happen so I have no idea why I'm even trying to convince some of you.

    This won't even be a thing since most "think" there is a romance undertone when it isn't since nobody seems to understand what admiration seems to looks like and our WoL isn't attracted to anybody cannon wise.
    I recognize admiration just fine. Alphinaud and Alisae are clearly full to the brim with it, for an example. But yeah, I don't know why you keep trying to convince me I'm wrong to want some flirt quips with the crystal cat boy, either.
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