Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Arngrim_Greyashe]

Lore reasons are alive in this thread again? @_@

I'm lazy enough to check unclear amount of pages to find the start of it, so could somebody explain in short what's going on?

I shall be your guide! The commentary that brought this was about RP / Making a male viera out of a female model. Lore wise, the viera males have not left the jungle yet. I say yet because it could one day change. However, after being told this, the person then tried to disprove male Hrothgar being able to be RP'd, which makes little sense since SE actually introduced the males. That's basically it.

[Lauront]

Lore reasons are alive in this thread again? @_@

I'm lazy enough to check unclear amount of pages to find the start of it, so could somebody explain in short what's going on?

Arngrim was just making the point that based on present lore, the males don't leave the Wood, thus attempting to play even through another model one runs counter to that. It's not so much an argument against adding them due to the lore.

...and he posted just as I did.

[Arngrim_Greyashe]

Arngrim was just making the point that based on present lore, the males don't leave the Wood, thus attempting to play even through another model one runs counter to that. It's not so much an argument against adding them due to the lore.

...and he posted just as I did.

Yeah, I'm good at that. Or you are. One of us is. Either way, Lauront is correct! Nothing is against their addition, just that the lore, as it currently stands, does not include them for a viable character. If it did, we'd probably have the males already!

[Halivel]

I shall be your guide! The commentary that brought this was about RP / Making a male viera out of a female model. Lore wise, the viera males have not left the jungle yet. I say yet because it could one day change. However, after being told this, the person then tried to disprove male Hrothgar being able to be RP'd, which makes little sense since SE actually introduced the males. That's basically it.

Ah, I see. Thanks a lot!

Well, we could argue about RPing Hrothgars in terms of their population after some events but... well, we don't really know much about their lore either. And about The Lost clan we don't really know anything except their description since GNB guys are Helions. So until the moment we know more info people could RP however they want and just adjust their backstories later, imo.

[Arngrim_Greyashe]

Ah, I see. Thanks a lot!

Well, we could argue about RPing Hrothgars in terms of their population after some events but... well, we don't really know much about their lore either. And about The Lost clan we don't really know anything except their description since GNB guys are Helions. So until the moment we know more info people could RP however they want and just adjust their backstories later, imo.

For Hrothgar, that's fairly accurate! The women are in question and off the table, for obvious reasons, and the males are pretty free to be RP'd. Just other female viera are perfectly okay to be RP'd since their lore exists for that. But the Helions are in a bit of a pickle from the sound of things in the Gunbreaker storyline. I'm interested to learn more about them all, viera and Hrothgar alike.

[zeylos]

Ah, I see. Thanks a lot!

Well, we could argue about RPing Hrothgars in terms of their population after some events but... well, we don't really know much about their lore either. And about The Lost clan we don't really know anything except their description since GNB guys are Helions. So until the moment we know more info people could RP however they want and just adjust their backstories later, imo.

tbh, hrotgar race lore is extremely dissapointing and luck.luster, hence why I think we will go to theri homeland on 6.0 and meet many hrotgar bois and queens, and we will likely learn a lot about them

[Halivel]

tbh, hrotgar race lore is extremely dissapointing and luck.luster, hence why I think we will go to theri homeland on 6.0 and meet many hrotgar bois and queens, and we will likely learn a lot about them

For now they only thing that really confuses me in their lore is "females are extremely rare". My eyebrows almost left my face when tried to rise high enough to represent amount of my questions about this fact. This is the silliest thing you ever could write for the lore, biologically wise mostly and until recently FFXIV seemed to follow irl biology more or less accurate so... I have some questions, SE story writing team.

Outside of this I couldn't say I'm any disappointed because we didn't really see anything about them. And even the lore for Vieras isn't really relevant because it's for The First - but this is at least some info to work with.

[Arngrim_Greyashe]

tbh, hrotgar race lore is extremely dissapointing and luck.luster, hence why I think we will go to theri homeland on 6.0 and meet many hrotgar bois and queens, and we will likely learn a lot about them

I see little reason to be so negative about them. They are interesting and add a new element to the game.

[Theodric]

tbh, hrotgar race lore is extremely dissapointing and luck.luster, hence why I think we will go to theri homeland on 6.0 and meet many hrotgar bois and queens, and we will likely learn a lot about them

They only have one Queen, I believe.

[Arngrim_Greyashe]

For now they only thing that really confuses me in their lore is "females are extremely rare". My eyebrows almost left my face when tried to rise high enough to represent amount of my questions about this fact. This is the silliest thing you ever could write for the lore, biologically wise mostly and until recently FFXIV seemed to follow irl biology more or less accurate so... I have some questions, SE story writing team.

Outside of this I couldn't say I'm any disappointed because we didn't really see anything about them. And even the lore for Vieras isn't really relevant because it's for The First - but this is at least some info to work with.

I believe I read somewhere that the birth rate of females in Hrothgar society are extremely low, thus the lack of them. I'll have to dig around once I'm off work to see if I can remember where I read it, and if it's credible and not just someone's reddit headcanon or something. I'll let you know if I find something!