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  1. #11
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    I think you are mistaken.

    There is no flaw in my opinion, in the rate of XP based on your example. Your saying that 8 people can get XP as a whole 8 or more times faster then 8 people will individually. Makes sense to me.
    Not to mention a level will reward 5000-8000 regularly. My leves average 10 minutes. So thats more XP per hour for me, and 10,000-16,000 gill more as well. In a group you will not earn 40,000 gill an hour like you can alone in a leve.

    Did you look at the search list and see how many people were on there in your level? I ask this because if there were several, that leaves alot of options for group leaders to chose from. In my experience, if you are not starting your own group, you can't complain just because other group leaders don't pick you.

    My point is, you present no evidence to support that the reason you never recieved a group invite, was based on population.

    You make unfounded assumption, that you can sit here and make threads blaming SE. Thats as reasonable as if I or others here decided to make a thread declaring the XP system is perfect, and that Zumi either has a bad reputation, or picked a class already saturated on his server, therfore Zumi is to blame for his own inability to be picked randomly off of the search list for a group at his ideal time of day.
    I don't start my own group on this game because I would have no clue on where you would even go since I have done what 1 party. I have no clue on any camps. How can I with only like 3 people seeking. I could take a picture right now and you will see only 3 people seeking in my range. The maps are not labeled with level ranges like other MMOs. From what I seen people just get 1 healer and then 7 other people in their range. The one party I had actually had 4 gladiators in it so people really don't care what class they pick up as long as they have their 1 healer.
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  2. #12
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    Naylia Petrova
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    Well, wouldn't a more constructive thread be - "Hi, I'm Zumi and I was wondering where a great place to rank up a party at 43 would be. Where do you guys usually go? Is there anything I need to worry about from a skills or party makeup perspective? Thanks!"
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  3. #13
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    To be constructive, I will add that FFXIV YG now seems mostly updated with the latest patches. Just go to Databases -> NPCs -> Attackable Mobs and you can filter by rank and zone. I think even see locations displayed on a map. It looks like the Amalj'aa camps in Thanalan have r40-49 mobs, and those usually have good respawn rates. Another option would be Kobold's (mid r40s Upper La Noscea). Or Restless Raptors (40-52) in Western La Noscea.
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  4. #14
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    I imagine if I made party people would be pretty upset after I did not know of any camps, asked them instead if they knew where to go and would result in people leaving. People not offended by my lack of knowledge of party camps would then have to wait for the group to fill again.
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    I meant that the thread on the forums should be about where to grind, etc.... /smacks forehead. Instead of asking for help from the community, you complain and ask what SE is going to do to fix your problem....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crica View Post
    Did you bother to read his entire post?
    Did you read the rest of mine?
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    Mariya Shidou
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    For the most part gladiator is very weak damage class. If I set the level up to the point where the mobs can chain my level or higher they roll me pretty hard. I do not do enough damage to kill them before they kill me. One of the pure damage dealing classes probably do have an easier time doing stuff on a harder difficulty from what I heard from friends but not gladiator for sure.
    There's something wrong with this, I solo'ed my GLA from 45 to 50 right after patch 1.20 release, doing both normal and GC leve. I never had any problem with mobs 1-3 levels higher than me. Granted I do use some cross class skills, they are Protect, Stoneskin, Secondwind, Invigorate and Cure, but that's pretty much all you can cross class nowadays because of the severe restriction patch 1.20 brought. The Riot Blade combo do very very big damage and it's easy enough to pull solo, except on the Toads as they are too big that they block your entire screen and you don't know where you are. You may want to check where you are doing leves, because I think Ul'dah still receive a big penalty on EXP reward upon completion. I was doing leve in Gridania and without GA the normal EXP reward with speed is around 5.5k - 6k alone, not counting mob kills. With GA and kill type GC leve, I could get close to 15k EXP per leve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    I don't start my own group on this game because I would have no clue on where you would even go since I have done what 1 party. I have no clue on any camps.
    Thats not my fault. Thats your fault. There are thread upon thread asking that exact question, did you even attempt to look for one? Has it occured to you to actually ask that question or ask how to get a group, or to simply complain about how flawed you fel the system is?
    How can I with only like 3 people seeking. I could take a picture right now and you will see only 3 people seeking in my range.
    Well you do what everyone else does, either sit there on the list being inactive then get on the forums and cry about it. Because I am sure that really got the groups begging for you.
    OR
    Get off your but and be proactive, learn the camps. Ask about them hear or do a search on any search engine. I did, and found alot.

    The maps are not labeled with level ranges like other MMOs.
    There are pleanty of maps with camps listed by level
    EXAMPLE:
    http://mooglebox.com/thanalan/index.php
    http://mooglebox.com/la-noscea/index.php
    http://mooglebox.com/blackshroud/index.php
    There are 3 maps, one for Thanalan, La Noscea, and Black Shroud, and the capability to adjust the map based on level.
    From what I seen people just get 1 healer and then 7 other people in their range. The one party I had actually had 4 gladiators in it so people really don't care what class they pick up as long as they have their 1 healer.
    Get anything you can get in your range. Its faster then solo. Then as you kill you keep looking for more. Thats what most players do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    I imagine if I made party people would be pretty upset after I did not know of any camps, asked them instead if they knew where to go and would result in people leaving.
    Thats a crap excuse. I start parties all the time, and first thing I ask is "hey guys, where you do you want to go". I often get multiple suggestions, then we go off and kill stuf till we level. If you ever tried, you may actually know this. Instead, you chose to theorcraft about what "might" happen and stand there and get 0 XP. Thats fine with me untill you get on the forums and attempt to convince everyone else that this is everyones fault but yours. Moreover, you attempt to blame SE for your inactivitiy.

    People not offended by my lack of knowledge of party camps would then have to wait for the group to fill again.
    In my experience, people get offended but prejugmental stupidity alot more then they do at a general lack of knowledge or experience. You choose to sit here and prejudge how players will react rather then to actually find out on your own.
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  9. #19
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    Slight note, leves shouldn't take you 15 minutes each to complete. The speedy bonus (which is easy to get) is generally for completion in under 6-10 minutes depending on the leve. Rarely did I ever spend more than 10 minutes on them.

    Also leves aren't the main means of leveling anymore. Groups have gotten tons of attention in recent patches and they are definitely the quickest way to level currently.
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  10. #20
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    Your math is wrong. I did 8 leves per level from 46-49 and 9 for the last. You need to kill every single quest mob for the EXP. I didn't even have to throw on guardians favor every time, I usually to do like the last two leves without it. I leveled at camp broken water and halitali (sp?). on my archer to do this. This game isn't that difficult to level as your making it.
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