Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Mugear_bahamut]

In which case you're better off just asking for expanded customisation options for the existing playable races. Though I quite like that FFXIV does not take the approach of 'anything goes' in regards to what is possible in the customisation screen. Miqo'te can already be made to be pretty short and mature looking, anyway. I'm not sure why you're so keen to push boundaries any further. Just how short do you want them to be, exactly?



Ugh. No, thank you. I love the design of Xaela and Raen men. I see a lot of them around these days. The original concept art even depicted the women as being closer to the men in terms of height so it would make more sense for the female model to be closer to the male model rather than the other way around.

Why do the female Au Ra have the option to be shorter than female Miqote and males don't have that option? Basically you want more taller options than males have already?
You're just basically pushing for everything to be taller, I get it. There's no persuading you to change opinions or just really, not butt in. I wasn't even replying to you!
You're the type of dude that wished short male races didn't even exist. (Loathing the existence of catboys) You turn stories around like the ones who want shorter races are the ones drowning out you big buff people.
You have a reply for everything we say. "They need to be tall! They are Jungle warriors! Lore says so!", no, real jungle warriors aren't big and buff,"But it's fantasy!"
You can actually tell that the other way... I wasn't asking for your opinion, dimwit.

[Theodric]

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First of all, please stop with the personal attacks. As stated earlier, I think some posters pushing for shorter options are way too personally invested in their ideas to the point where they're lashing out even at those of us who have supported this thread from the very beginning.

Secondly, kindly stop making such ridiculous assumptions about my motives. You can shed the blatant bias, too, whilst you're at it. You keep implying that there's 'enough' tall races. Yet it can easily be said that there's 'enough' short races too.

It's not the presence of short races in the game that bothers me. It's the simple fact that some of you insist on trying to push for everything to be short. Now you're lamenting that Xaela and Raen men weren't designed to be short and you're also pushing for viera men to be short too.

Please stop lashing out at people just because they're strongly opposed to your suggestions.

[Mugear_bahamut]

First of all, please stop with the personal attacks. As stated earlier, I think some posters pushing for shorter options are way too personally invested in their ideas to the point where they're lashing out even at those of us who have supported this thread from the very beginning.

Secondly, kindly stop making such ridiculous assumptions about my motives. You can shed the blatant bias, too, whilst you're at it. You keep implying that there's 'enough' tall races. Yet it can easily be said that there's 'enough' short races too.

It's not the presence of short races in the game that bothers me. It's the simple fact that some of you insist on trying to push for everything to be short. Now you're lamenting that Xaela and Raen men weren't designed to be short and you're also pushing for viera men to be short too.

Please stop lashing out at people just because they're strongly opposed to your suggestions.

You should try better at your hidden agenda, boy. You're the one who's extremely biased and as soon as someone mentions short/feminine/slim or whatever doesn't fit your taste,
you pounce right off to "drown" them out, along with your fellow big buff Viera supporters who you kiss-ass as much as possible so they'd support this agenda of yours.
I'm not saying everyone who supports these big buff Viera ideals are entitled jerks like you, but you get the idea.

[Theodric]

You should try better at your hidden agenda, boy. You're the one who's extremely biased and as soon as someone mentions short/feminine/slim or whatever doesn't fit your taste,
you pounce right off to "drown" them out, along with your fellow big buff Viera supporters who you kiss-ass as much as possible so they'd support this agenda of yours.
I'm not saying everyone who supports these big buff Viera ideals are entitled jerks like you, but you get the idea.

There's no 'hidden agenda' to be found and I'm not particularly interested in arguing with you, given that you have repeatedly attempted to start fights throughout the thread. Usually by quoting me, for some bizarre reason. I'm not quite sure why you're so focused on me in particular. On that note, what exactly are you trying to accuse me of?

There's no 'hive mind', either so I'd rather not see conspiracy theories thrown into what is already quite the mess of a thread. I assure you that there isn't a group of us meeting for coffee every week to discuss the very serious issue of beefy bunny men.

Shockingly, people can just agree with each other without there being sinister motives.

With respect, I think you need to reconsider your definition of entitlement. My comments have mostly been along the lines of 'no, thank you' whenever the subject of feminine or short viera men is proposed.

Maybe that's for the best. smh
Cyber-bullies have taken over this thread anyway, and anything with a differed opinion will get cancelled out or ignored, so I really don't care.

Back to that particular claim, eh? Nobody is 'bullying' you in this thread. They're just disagreeing with your ideas. I think it's pretty horrific that you'd hide behind such a claim because actual cases of cyber bullying are extremely serious and not in the same league as the petty disagreements in this thread.

I strongly suggest that you take some time to clear your head. I'm not interested in fighting with you and at this point I'm actually rather concerned.

[Mugear_bahamut]

There's no 'hidden agenda' to be found and I'm not particularly interested in arguing with you, given that you have repeatedly attempted to start fights throughout the thread. Usually by quoting me, for some bizarre reason. I'm not quite sure why you're so focused on me in particular. On that note, what exactly are you trying to accuse me of?

There's no 'hive mind', either so I'd rather not see conspiracy theories thrown into what is already quite the mess of a thread. I assure you that there isn't a group of us meeting for coffee every week to discuss the very serious issue of beefy bunny men.

Shockingly, people can just agree with each other without there being sinister motives.

With respect, I think you need to reconsider your definition of entitlement. My comments have mostly been along the lines of 'no, thank you' whenever the subject of feminine or short viera men is proposed.

Whatever, keep on denying, just keep in mind it's too obvious to not be called out. js

[Theodric]

Whatever, keep on denying, just keep in mind it's too obvious to not be called out. js

I don't doubt that you assume the worst of me. As I said, I'm not particularly interested in arguing with you. If you're not interested in a civil debate then there's really no need to engage me. Especially after your very hurtful comments and insults.

[Mugear_bahamut]

Back to that particular claim, eh? Nobody is 'bullying' you in this thread. They're just disagreeing with your ideas. I think it's pretty horrific that you'd hide behind such a claim because actual cases of cyber bullying are extremely serious and not in the same league as the petty disagreements in this thread.

I strongly suggest that you take some time to clear your head. I'm not interested in fighting with you and at this point I'm actually rather concerned.

What so now you're saying I'm the only one being "attacked/cyber-bullied" in this thread and now it's my personal problem? Stop the fake "concern" jerk.

[Theodric]

What so now you're saying I'm the only one being "attacked/cyber-bullied" in this thread and now it's my personal problem? Stop the fake "concern" jerk.

Please stop with the insults. It's not that big a deal. It's a fictional race in a fantasy setting. Why are you getting so worked up over such a thing to the point where you're lashing out at other posters? I'm genuinely trying to understand where you're coming from. I have not insulted you. I have simply stated the equivalent of 'no, thank you' in regards to suggestions that male viera should be short.

You're free to disagree with that. So I'm utterly confused as to where all this needless drama is coming from.

As another poster said, the thread may risk being locked. So if nothing else please stop for the thread's sake.

[Mugear_bahamut]

Please stop with the insults. It's not that big a deal. It's a fictional race in a fantasy setting. Why are you getting so worked up over such a thing to the point where you're lashing out at other posters? I'm genuinely trying to understand where you're coming from. I have not insulted you. I have simply stated the equivalent of 'no, thank you' in regards to suggestions that male viera should be short.

You're free to disagree with that. So I'm utterly confused as to where all this needless drama is coming from.

As another poster said, the thread may risk being locked. So if nothing else please stop for the thread's sake.

Oh wait, I gotta quote this.

Victim complex leveled up!

Seriously though, no one ever attacks you and you take it personally. It's almost hilariously sad at this point.

[Lauront]

Why do the female Au Ra have the option to be shorter than female Miqote and males don't have that option? Basically you want more taller options than males have already?
You're just basically pushing for everything to be taller, I get it. There's no persuading you to change opinions or just really, not butt in. I wasn't even replying to you!
You're the type of dude that wished short male races didn't even exist. (Loathing the existence of catboys) You turn stories around like the ones who want shorter races are the ones drowning out you big buff people.
You have a reply for everything we say. "They need to be tall! They are Jungle warriors! Lore says so!", no, real jungle warriors aren't big and buff,"But it's fantasy!"
You can actually tell that the other way... I wasn't asking for your opinion, dimwit.

No, it's more the case that Au Ra men already are tall and we're happy about that.

After all, this is an open forum and so you cannot really control who will or won't respond to you, nor do you get to claim it's "bullying" when someone does. But I see we've all resolved to play nicely now by making copious use of the ignore function.