Opinions on Seraph abilities

[TalixRune]

In addition to the shielding on her embrace, Seraph's major benefit is Consolation, which is a 300 potency heal with 100% shield that she can use twice. This is almost the equivalent of two free deployment tactics adloquiums, which is also a 300 potency with a 125% shield. So the shield is a little weaker (and can't be recitation'd), but that's still pretty powerful. The whispering dawn and illumination equivalents are just there because Eos had them, and Selene is just a skin-suit she sometimes wears so Seraph might as well have Eos's abilities.

Pet Potency is less than Player Potency, it's 2/3. So that 300 potency goes down to 200 in actual use. It's still a good ability but it's not Adlo level, it is about the same as another Succor.

[Sylve]

I'd have been happier if Seraph simply replaced Eos altogether. Shes not all that powerful on her own as a 2 minute cooldown.
Temperence and Neutral Sect are far more powerful than what Seraph offers for the same durations and cooldowns.

Then we'd just have Selene/Eos/Seraph options for visual effects. Would give us more opportunity to apply DPS with the mini shields going out.

[LegoTechnic]

Pet Potency is less than Player Potency, it's 2/3. So that 300 potency goes down to 200 in actual use. It's still a good ability but it's not Adlo level, it is about the same as another Succor.

Forgive me if I'm wrong here, but wasn't that because the Maim and Mend traits didn't apply to the fairy in previous expansions? The tooltip in Shadowbringers specifically states that it also applies to pets now, which it didn't in Stormsblood. I had thought this was something they were to address as part of making pet skills into player actions.

I will test potency values when I'm home, but given the pet is no longer really a pet I'll be disappointed if it's still true.

[Eloah]

Temperence and Neutral Sect are far more powerful than what Seraph offers for the same durations and cooldowns.

The only "good" thing is that if we use Seraph, she doesn't take away from our kit. Fey Blessing is basically replaced with Consolation, so yay?. But this is the issue with Dissipation. Temperance and Neutral Sect are pure buffs, with a bit of a side benefit. Dissipation, offers Aetherflow and a healing buff, but at the expense of half our kit. I know it wont happen soon but in addition to removing Dissipation, I hope they put Seraph in its place. She's a bit underwhelming now, but if moved to 60 Seraph would make a decent cap skill.

Also could you please fix the Summon Eos/Summon Selene skills. As they are now, they are the same skill. Could we please just replace them with a Summon Lily skill, you know the faerie's actual name, and use the Egi glamour system to choose which appearance we like. Then maybe we could get another skill, maybe?

[TalixRune]

Forgive me if I'm wrong here, but wasn't that because the Maim and Mend traits didn't apply to the fairy in previous expansions? The tooltip in Shadowbringers specifically states that it also applies to pets now, which it didn't in Stormsblood. I had thought this was something they were to address as part of making pet skills into player actions.

I will test potency values when I'm home, but given the pet is no longer really a pet I'll be disappointed if it's still true.

I checked Embrace before and after expansion and they were still 2/3. And checking just now ingame, my Adlo averages 9352 at Player Potency 300, Consolation averages 6459 at Pet Potency 300, which still puts it at that same 2/3 potency area.

[NobleWinter]

I wish Seraph didn't have her own versions of Whispering Dawn and Fey Illumination because it's just a wasted tooltip. It would make sense if summoning her reset the timers for Fey Illumination and Whispering Dawn so that she was truly a Cap Skill worth having but she doesn't... All the glorious animations don't make her feel any more impactful. The fairy glitches that keep making my abilities go on cool down without being used are atrocious. I'm also getting tired of my fairy being killed by every cut scene. Checking to see if the fairy placement bar is available to be sure she's summoned is annoying. Scholar has a hundred ways to heal and annoy you. The Aetherflow lock out outside combat, bland DPS, super expensive Art of War, and the laziest Selene rework possible make it feel like the Devs don't actually like Scholar. I'm only glad they didn't nerf every healing potency like they did Astro. Both Healers are the worst classes hands down in Shadow ringers for satisfaction.

[GrimGale]

I'd make 3 changes:
Aetherpact now makes fairy cast a mid/high potency heal costing 10 fairy gauge. ( Rather than the tether that locks skills away when its active.)

Seraph is no longer on a CD, but can only be summoned when on 100 fairy gauge. She consumes fairy gauge at a rate of 10 per 2 seconds. She can be dismissed whenever you want after summoning her. (She still consumes a base tick just for summoning her)

Fairy Charge is a new Aetherflow dump skill. Spend 1 AF stack to give your fairy 20% healing power for 5 seconds and charge the fairy gauge by 20.

[Rubiss]

In addition to the shielding on her embrace, Seraph's major benefit is Consolation, which is a 300 potency heal with 100% shield that she can use twice. This is almost the equivalent of two free deployment tactics adloquiums, which is also a 300 potency with a 125% shield. So the shield is a little weaker (and can't be recitation'd), but that's still pretty powerful. The whispering dawn and illumination equivalents are just there because Eos had them, and Selene is just a skin-suit she sometimes wears so Seraph might as well have Eos's abilities.

Actually, given fairy stats, I'm not even sure it's better than 1 deployed Adlo. Assuming no crits...

You're spreading a 300 x 1.25 potency shield (375). Now fairy stats have been hit and their actual healing is really weak. At i436, an Adloquium does about 9.5k which translates to an 11,875 shield. Consolation heals for 6.5k that's a 6500 x 2 (since you can use it twice) shield or a 13,000 shield. However, let's keep in mind that Adlo is a spell, so it benefits from buffs to healing and heals more for Warriors. But for arguments sake, Consolation, if used twice is SLIGHTLY stronger than one deploy Adlo.

[Blessedbythesun]

Seraph is overall underwhelming. Her versions of illumination and whisper are exactly the same. Seraphic Veil is a marginally better, but single target Succur. Not to mention, the buff does not stack, so using Consolation in double succession does not yet double shield. The only way to maximize consolation is to cast on top of succor or adlo for stacking shields.

[WaxSw]

She's a bit underwheilming, while her embrace is great you can't choose her target so there will be times when she will heal someone who doesn't need to be healed, Consolation is great too but I don't see the reason why it has 2 charges, seraph only last 15s (20-5 of summon animation) I dont see why would I want to heal twice in those 15s since the shields dont stack with themselves, her whispering dawn and fey illumination are the same as Eos so those skills doesn't give me a reason to summon her and she has a 120s cooldown which is way too high for what she brings to battle.