5.0 WAR is a disappointment

[SgtPepperUK]

tbh I've gotten WAR to 76 and I'm done, the loss of heals from Inner Beast and Steel Cyclone means I'm dying way more now. I pull small, party says pull more, I pull more, healer cannot keep up and, with no HP back from Steel Cyclone, I die.

Nascent Flash doesn't make up for it, it's clunky to use so not really good for those big pulls.

Going to go back to PLD and see how that plays.

[Praesul]

tbh I've gotten WAR to 76 and I'm done, the loss of heals from Inner Beast and Steel Cyclone means I'm dying way more now. I pull small, party says pull more, I pull more, healer cannot keep up and, with no HP back from Steel Cyclone, I die.

Nascent Flash doesn't make up for it, it's clunky to use so not really good for those big pulls.

Going to go back to PLD and see how that plays.

If you were doing things right before, you were mass pulling in Deliverance which meant no self heals anyway. Now you get the best of both worlds, if you can't utilize it right that's not the game's fault.

[SgtPepperUK]

If you were doing things right before, you were mass pulling in Deliverance which meant no self heals anyway. Now you get the best of both worlds, if you can't utilize it right that's not the game's fault.

I did big pulls in Defiance, keep hate, Steel Cyclone to keep my own health at a good level. I rarely dropped into Deliverance, occasionally the odd boss when running with healers I knew and trusted.

[WhyAmIHere]

tbh I've gotten WAR to 76 and I'm done, the loss of heals from Inner Beast and Steel Cyclone means I'm dying way more now. I pull small, party says pull more, I pull more, healer cannot keep up and, with no HP back from Steel Cyclone, I die.

Nascent Flash doesn't make up for it, it's clunky to use so not really good for those big pulls.

Going to go back to PLD and see how that plays.

Are you using your cooldowns? RI is now a flat damage mitigation, Thrill is slightly changed but still gives you 20% more HP and has the conva effect baked into it. EDIT:: Also now SiO is a starting 12% mitigation since IB was removed.
If you're dying on small pulls, either you're not mitigating trash adequately, or your healer is asleep at the wheel.