Of all the 4 tanks right now, how would you stack them against each other?

[Snow_Leonhart]

I've only played two tanks (GNB n WAR)since expansion so i'll comment on those. I leveled GNB to 73. Love the look, hate the gameplay. Its just not fun. You have ONE main combo with not even a minor deviation(like WARs Eye or Path combo ender). You get another combo like every 30sec. And it feels like everything that should NOT be on GCD is. So not much weaving and that bursty feeling. Its mitigation feels stronger than WAR tho. My hp dropped alot slower on GNB in dungeon pulls compared to WAR. So after gettin GNB to 73 i left it and leveled my WAR to 73. It feels like night and day. WAR just feels so much fun. Ive played the other tanks before expac and nothing still feels as good as IR and FC. Plus the decimate spams just melt things. It feels more rewarding playing WAR and just flat out fun IMO. From word of mouth, sounds like PLD is op this expac and DRK is a mess

[SakiKojiro]

People say DRK is braindead because it is. You literally just use every non-defensive off-GCD on cooldown, hit Edge of darkness every time you have over 6k MP, Use blood immediately when you get it. That's basically it.

Oh right, and hit 1 2 3 over and over.

[Starkbeaumont]

People say DRK is braindead because it is. You literally just use every non-defensive off-GCD on cooldown, hit Edge of darkness every time you have over 6k MP, Use blood immediately when you get it. That's basically it.

Oh right, and hit 1 2 3 over and over.

WAR doesn't even use mp. uses beast gauge when ever possible. has less ogcd.
on top it's gap closer uses ressources when all other tanks don't do so.
it's 2nd combo finisher is only used once in a while. it's damage buff can't be applied natively during aoe.

ya, war is much better /s

[Dio_Tiferet]

I think gameplay wise Paladin and Warrior are fine both solid and easy tanks slow and perfect for beginners.

But then we have the reworked DRK which went from fast space action extensive resource management large skillset and a shitload of ways to minmax your dps into a Pseudo WAR clone with little creativity.
The blood and mp resource system has become so over simplified and easy to manage it may aswell just be there for the aesthetics. Not mention whatever is left of our old skillset is now locked behind 60 to 90 second cooldowns.

GBR is personally the only tank i now enjoy after the butchering of DRK because it has the most speed and depth in its gameplay something they ruined for old DRK mains.

[shao32]

WAR doesn't even use mp. uses beast gauge when ever possible. has less ogcd.
on top it's gap closer uses ressources when all other tanks don't do so.
it's 2nd combo finisher is only used once in a while. it's damage buff can't be applied natively during aoe.

ya, war is much better /s

both DRK and WAR use the job gauge at the same rate more or less, both use inner delirium at the same rate too, WAR have less oGCD ps and have one combo more, DRK use more oGCD, but just a bit more, and have only 1 combo, the MP managment is so redundant at this point is mostly act as a CD timer of you oGCD like the charged infuriate.

if we compared HW to current WAR are like fire and ice, nothing like the other, current DRK and WAR are like 2 kinds of water since both looks so similar in many things now.

[Conando]

PLD, GNB DRK WAR

War has a stronger enmity generation than gunbreaker but it suffers some drawbacks such as feeling unweildy.

Gunbreaker is fun and fast it suffers from having three physical defensive CD (Always have rampart on my bars) but only 1 Magical defensive CD Personally I'd make the longer colddown both magical and physical but drop the mitigation to 25% for the same amount of time.

PLD really is tops in everything aside from the weird combo setup now.

and DRK is always fun to play almost as much as GNB is

You do realize rampart, nebula, and heart of stone reduce damage from both types right? Unless it stipulates magic or physical it works for both.

[VenKitsune]

You do realize rampart, nebula, and heart of stone reduce damage from both types right? Unless it stipulates magic or physical it works for both.

They're talking mostly about Camouflage and heart of stone, i'd imagine. Rampart and nebula are two base cooldowns for tanks - all other tanks have rampart and all other tanks have 30% reductions on 2 minute cooldowns that last 10 seconds. We have to compare the tanks based on their other defensive cooldowns in this case. And in this case, Camouflage and heart of stone are super weaksauce when you look at all the other tank skills, especially TBN and sheltron.

[Calcilis]

Huh, ppl still can't let go of war considering it is the weakest overall in 5.0

[RyuDragnier]

Huh, ppl still can't let go of war considering it is the weakest overall in 5.0

Which tbh feels really odd. Why are PLD and GNB, the two tanks with the most utility, also doing the most damage? That feels like an oversight by the devs, they should be doing less damage with all that utility.

[gumas]

GNB feels like in need to have 1 defensive skill that can be spam somewhat, like DRK TBN or PLD shelltron (cant say war, i dont play war iam sorry)