SHB BLM is the peak of this game's job design

[Archwizard]

Manaward is better than most self heals.

It's also a 2 min CD.

[Acidblood]

It's also a 2 min CD.

So is Second Wind, and Shade Shift (which is only 20%) ... but yes BLM has the lowest survivability; it also has the highest DPS (i.e. trade-offs).

[Archwizard]

So is Second Wind, and Shade Shift (which is only 20%) ... but yes BLM has the lowest survivability; it also has the highest DPS (i.e. trade-offs).

Sure, but the jobs that get Second Wind also get either Bloodbath, additional survival tools, or just higher base survivability.
(Also isn't a 500 potency heal usually like... half their HP?)

Meanwhile BLM gets a lot of tradeoffs for its high DPS. Having a uniquely bad time without a pocket healer need not be one of them.

[Acidblood]

Sure, but the jobs that get Second Wind also get either Bloodbath, additional survival tools, or just higher base survivability.
(Also isn't a 500 potency heal usually like... half their HP?)

Meanwhile BLM gets a lot of tradeoffs for its high DPS. Having a uniquely bad time without a pocket healer need not be one of them.

None of which is a detriment in group content (which is most content in FFXIV); meanwhile DPS is highly valued... so I'd say a fair trade.

Also; Have you ever used Second Wind? It's 15-20% at best... BRD and MCH only have Second Wind... SMN only has Physick (not worth the cast time) and Titan Shield; 20% every 30 seconds; which isn't bad but won't exactly save you for long... and if you want a pocket healer use a Chocobo... or just play RDM if want self-sustain (on a DPS) that badly.

[Archwizard]

None of which is a detriment in group content (which is most content in FFXIV); meanwhile DPS is highly valued... so I'd say a fair trade.

Also; Have you ever used Second Wind? It's 15-20% at best... BRD and MCH only have Second Wind... SMN only has Physick (not worth the cast time) and Titan Shield; 20% every 30 seconds; which isn't bad but won't exactly save you for long... and if you want a pocket healer use a Chocobo... or just play RDM if want self-sustain (on a DPS) that badly.

<-- 1) I do play RDM. See, Main Class,
2) You aren't always going to have a Chocobo, consider Eureka (to which I'm sure there'll be some child of it later in the Xpac) or any number of instanced quests,
3) I'd argue for Physick to be buffed for SMN at the same time, but to address your point, they can also use Titan's shield twice in a row, can use it more often, and have a free heal on their Phoenix,
4) To my knowledge all DoWs have higher health pools and defenses to start with, so if we're arguing about the approximate value of Second Wind even returning only 15-20%, let's talk about how that compares to Manaward returning 30% of a caster's health pool, shall we? 'Cuz at the end of the day, it's about how many slaps you can take to the face, and mob damage doesn't scale down just 'cuz you're squishy.

[Acidblood]

<-- 1) I do play RDM. See, Main Class,
2) You aren't always going to have a Chocobo, consider Eureka (to which I'm sure there'll be some child of it later in the Xpac) or any number of instanced quests,
3) I'd argue for Physick to be buffed for SMN at the same time, but to address your point, they can also use Titan's shield twice in a row, can use it more often, and have a free heal on their Phoenix,
4) To my knowledge all DoWs have higher health pools and defenses to start with, so if we're arguing about the approximate value of Second Wind even returning only 15-20%, let's talk about how that compares to Manaward returning 30% of a caster's health pool, shall we? 'Cuz at the end of the day, it's about how many slaps you can take to the face, and mob damage doesn't scale down just 'cuz you're squishy.

1) Then why do you need BLM to also have self-heals?
2) So you want to balance jobs around Eureka now? :facepalm: (which has Logos actions BTW, and was never designed to be solo friendly). Special instanced content includes NPC / passive heals (if needed).
3) Good for them. Maybe you should consider playing SMN.
4) Yes, Melee have slightly higher HP pools, and better physical defence, though worse magical defence, they also tend to get hit more. Maybe you should consider playing Melee, I hear DRG is in a pretty good spot right now.

[Archwizard]

1) Then why do you need BLM to also have self-heals?
2) So you want to balance jobs around Eureka now? :facepalm: (which has Logos actions BTW, and was never designed to be solo friendly). Special instanced content includes NPC / passive heals (if needed).
3) Good for them. Maybe you should consider playing SMN.
4) Yes, Melee have slightly higher HP pools, and better physical defence, though worse magical defence, they also tend to get hit more. Maybe you should consider playing Melee, I hear DRG is in a pretty good spot right now.

Ah, riveting: No less than 3 "Well why don't you go play something else" responses.
You can already tell this is gonna be a productive discussion.

All I'm saying is, every job should have an option to self-sustain while leveling or soloing, even BLM. And as luck would have it, most jobs already do, BLM being a major exception.