Materia / secondary stats for ShB tanks?

[Praesul]

Since leveling up kind of does a "soft reset" on secondary scaling, the value of crit currently is diminished because you can't stack enough of it currently to beat out other secondaries.

From what I understand, in general it's Sks until you reach a certain threshold/comfort > Dhit > Det > Crit > More SkS > Ten.
For WAR it's Det > Comfy SkS > Crit > Ten. This is because Dhit is greatly devalued on them due to getting automatic direct hits where the majority of their damage come froms, Dhit only increases direct hit chance and not damage.

The info was taken from The Balance discord.

[Spartan926]

Since leveling up kind of does a "soft reset" on secondary scaling, the value of crit currently is diminished because you can't stack enough of it currently to beat out other secondaries.

From what I understand, in general it's Sks until you reach a certain threshold/comfort > Dhit > Det > Crit > More SkS > Ten.
For WAR it's Det > Comfy SkS > Crit > Ten. This is because Dhit is greatly devalued on them due to getting automatic direct hits where the majority of their damage come froms, Dhit only increases direct hit chance and not damage.

The info was taken from The Balance discord.

Am I to understand from this that Det now gives a better bonus to WAR damage than more Crit for our burst window? If so I'd like to know where the math is coming from.

[Praesul]

Am I to understand from this that Det now gives a better bonus to WAR damage than more Crit for our burst window? If so I'd like to know where the math is coming from.

You can't currently stack enough crit for it to overtake det, but that will change as new gear is released. I've been told the magic number is higher than 3k.

[Fangorn]

You can't currently stack enough crit for it to overtake det, but that will change as new gear is released. I've been told the magic number is higher than 3k.

Im sitting on 2900ish atm. With new normal raid gear i believe 3k is easily achievable.

[Nedkel]

Am I to understand from this that Det now gives a better bonus to WAR damage than more Crit for our burst window? If so I'd like to know where the math is coming from.

Crit is still the king for warrior, it increases damage to higher degree than DET when you crit. It affects critical hits a lot more than DET here is the math
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...tat_intervals/

Every 16 points you gain 0.1% on critical damage, where DET is 25 points per 0.1%

Since leveling up kind of does a "soft reset" on secondary scaling, the value of crit currently is diminished because you can't stack enough of it currently to beat out other secondaries.

From what I understand, in general it's Sks until you reach a certain threshold/comfort > Dhit > Det > Crit > More SkS > Ten.
For WAR it's Det > Comfy SkS > Crit > Ten. This is because Dhit is greatly devalued on them due to getting automatic direct hits where the majority of their damage come froms, Dhit only increases direct hit chance and not damage.

The info was taken from The Balance discord.

I would never consider taking any SKS on any tank job except maybe GNB.
PLD has a spell combo, which is not affected, a big part of DRK damage comes from other sources than weapon skills, and on War you sit under 2.4 sec GCD anyway and there is no point to meld it, i have no problem to pull out 5 FC in IR and i have no SKS melds.

[Dotsalot]

Since leveling up kind of does a "soft reset" on secondary scaling, the value of crit currently is diminished because you can't stack enough of it currently to beat out other secondaries.

From what I understand, in general it's Sks until you reach a certain threshold/comfort > Dhit > Det > Crit > More SkS > Ten.
For WAR it's Det > Comfy SkS > Crit > Ten. This is because Dhit is greatly devalued on them due to getting automatic direct hits where the majority of their damage come froms, Dhit only increases direct hit chance and not damage.

The info was taken from The Balance discord.

If im not mistaken Crit and Det are valued equally for warrior that is. Sks should be around 1500-1800 for your comfort values. Dhit is basically useless cause of our inner release windows and infuriates. Higher crit values i found more efficient then det. Thats just off my sims and practicing.