Yoshi-p loves Skyrim and Monster hunter 3rd

[LillithaFenimore]

Speaking of which, it is absolutely hilarious how people will jump on someone for liking this game or any other FF game but god forbid you point out the flaws of skyrim that people are willingly looking past every time they load the game.

Yeah and I find it hilarious that you only refer to TES V: Skyrim as a stand alone game. Skyrim is one in a series. You really can't judge it as a stand alone game. Technically each Elder Scrolls game builds upon itself and has the same lore and mythology. You are going through different provences on the content of Tamriel.

As far as bugs go, like many have stated, the fans of TES series expect it to be a bit buggy. We have played the games since what 1994 when the first one came out? However, I will say, I think fans have the right to be a bit agitated with the initial release of FFXIV for all of it's flaws because they were so many.

So far, from playing Skyrim, the only flaws I have heard about are frame rate issues, freezing up, getting caught in loops. Is there anymore, can someone go ahead and tell me the other issues? Those issues I have never experienced when I was playing. Not one. Then again, I think those issues from what I've read seem to become more prevelent the more save files you have. I don't have many save files, I just write over them.

Compared to release of FFXIV...Skyrim's issues alone, not considering the other issues the other TES games have had, just don't seem as vast. Many of us who are also fans of FF series were not expecting bugs and flaws and what not on this game because SE has never to my knowledge released a game in such a condition (cept for FFXI cause MMO's were still in it's infancy when created). Then on top of paying a hefty price for the special edition and having to make sure our rigs could handle the game...well...lets just say the numbers of the community speaks for itself...

[Elexia]

Yeah and I find it hilarious that you only refer to TES V: Skyrim as a stand alone game. Skyrim is one in a series. You really can't judge it as a stand alone game.

I know it's one in a series, yet people say the exact same thing about any other games in a long running series:

"You can't really judge it as a stand alone game"

It's not ok to judge Skyrim as a stand alone (because for all intents and purposes, each one is a stand alone game because they aren't expansions onto one another.) but it's ok to judge other series by one game alone.

This is what I mean by it being hilarious, Skyrim isn't a bad game, but it's not this "perfect" game people are hyping it up to be, it truly isn't, especially since fans of it are doing what they tell people in general not to do with games, and look past flaws.

[Rowyne]

I know it's one in a series, yet people say the exact same thing about any other games in a long running series:

"You can't really judge it as a stand alone game"

It's not ok to judge Skyrim as a stand alone (because for all intents and purposes, each one is a stand alone game because they aren't expansions onto one another.) but it's ok to judge other series by one game alone.

This is what I mean by it being hilarious, Skyrim isn't a bad game, but it's not this "perfect" game people are hyping it up to be, it truly isn't, especially since fans of it are doing what they tell people in general not to do with games, and look past flaws.

If you're comparing Skyrim specifically to FFXIV...

Skyrim may be buggy, yes, but the foundation is there so it's easy to overlook. FFXIV's foundation is flawed and pretty much everything is being rebuilt from the ground up, which is more difficult to forgive. Skyrim is one of many stories in a continuing saga set in the same universe. Final Fantasy games are generally one story in its own universe not connected to any other numbered title (there are exceptions, but there are very few sequels).

Skyrim isn't perfect, but I think it's hype-worthy. I have tons of friends playing it, and no one has complained yet. Whereas none of my friends have anything good to say about FFXIV.

[LillithaFenimore]

Skyrim isn't perfect, but I think it's hype-worthy. I have tons of friends playing it, and no one has complained yet. Whereas none of my friends have anything good to say about FFXIV.

Yep I can attest to this. Tried to get two friends of mine and my husbands nephew to play. All three of them LOL'd and quit in a week, this was back at release. All three of them play TES V: Skyrim and are loving it...again...#'s speak for themselves :/

[Seif]

If you're comparing Skyrim specifically to FFXIV...

Skyrim may be buggy, yes, but the foundation is there so it's easy to overlook. FFXIV's foundation is flawed and pretty much everything is being rebuilt from the ground up, which is more difficult to forgive. Skyrim is one of many stories in a continuing saga set in the same universe. Final Fantasy games are generally one story in its own universe not connected to any other numbered title (there are exceptions, but there are very few sequels).

Skyrim isn't perfect, but I think it's hype-worthy. I have tons of friends playing it, and no one has complained yet. Whereas none of my friends have anything good to say about FFXIV.

Rebuilt from ground up? Somehow I think they're in the final stretch of battle tweaks and it still feels like back in the beta days. I wish your assumption is true and we're only in the beginning of these battle fixes.

Jobs, where are you?

[Biggs]

Rebuilt from ground up? Somehow I think they're in the final stretch of battle tweaks and it still feels like back in the beta days. I wish your assumption is true and we're only in the beginning of these battle fixes.

Jobs, where are you?

I am actually really curious as to what the patch times will be for patches released AFTER 1.21. Remember back when Yoshi said content will begin to be released sooner once the job system is handled? It will be interesting to see if that turns out to be true or not. As it stands now 1.21 was scheduled to be released in the next few weeks (according to the plan they laid out) and I get the feeling it will probably be pushed back. (purely speculation on my part, just my gut feeling.)

[Tenshi]

The metacritic score you linked to for Skyrim was for the user review score, not the actual critic score. Nice try though.

I pointed out 3 times that I was referring to user reviews in that post. Was that not enough?

The constant mention of Skyrim's glowing reviews fails to mention that they vary quite a bit by platform (with only an 8.5 on 360 after 1,100+ user reviews).

**except by users on one of the three platforms that the game appears on.**

"Perfect reviews" is only the case for non-360 users.

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If the level of detail resonates that strongly with a reviewer to give it a perfect score (again, something that famitsu had never done with a western-developed game prior to Skyrim) then it is safe to say that it is one of the reasons that players love the game as well.

I have been assured that my problems in the past with "Blade Runner" represent a failure of my own taste and imagination... --Roger Ebert, discussing why his initial review of Blade Runner was so far removed from the rest of the world

Simply because a reviewer (regardless of how hallowed they are) thinks or feels something, it is not safe to say that the rest of the world does as well. I'm surprised you're trying to make that leap.

Speaking of which, it is absolutely hilarious how people will jump on someone for liking this game or any other FF game but god forbid you point out the flaws of skyrim that people are willingly looking past every time they load the game.

This. I really really enjoy XIV because it's one of the few games in the past 5 years that I've seriously connected with. I've played it since launch and look forward to playing it and watching it evolve for years to come. I scan this board daily to learn more about it and yeesh, sometimes the intensity of the negativity directed at the game is pretty brutal. So much so that after a while it's tempting to point out the flaws in other games, and in other posts praising those games, and then... end up here, having added to the negativity and not changed much of anything.

And having spent a bunch of time posting that I could have spent playing XIV.

[Rowyne]

Rebuilt from ground up? Somehow I think they're in the final stretch of battle tweaks and it still feels like back in the beta days. I wish your assumption is true and we're only in the beginning of these battle fixes.

Jobs, where are you?

Too true, Seif.

[quantumsaint]

I pointed out 3 times that I was referring to user reviews in that post. Was that not enough?







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I have been assured that my problems in the past with "Blade Runner" represent a failure of my own taste and imagination... --Roger Ebert, discussing why his initial review of Blade Runner was so far removed from the rest of the world

Simply because a reviewer (regardless of how hallowed they are) thinks or feels something, it is not safe to say that the rest of the world does as well. I'm surprised you're trying to make that leap.



This. I really really enjoy XIV because it's one of the few games in the past 5 years that I've seriously connected with. I've played it since launch and look forward to playing it and watching it evolve for years to come. I scan this board daily to learn more about it and yeesh, sometimes the intensity of the negativity directed at the game is pretty brutal. So much so that after a while it's tempting to point out the flaws in other games, and in other posts praising those games, and then... end up here, having added to the negativity and not changed much of anything.

And having spent a bunch of time posting that I could have spent playing XIV.

The fact that you're trying to cite user reviews is laughable, anyone can contribute a user-review, even people that have never played the game. Despite the fact you have people rating it a 0 that have never played it, you also have people scoring the wrong version of the game, such as PC users rating the 360 version a 0 for compromising the version of the "glorious PC master race," and other people who rated it a 0 due to technical issues where they weren't even able to boot the game at all. Even with all of the undeserved 0s, it still manages to hold a place higher than the other user-rated scores.

If a reviewer rates a game based on liking certain aspects of the game (and it wasn't just Famitsu that praised Betheda's level of detail) it stands to reason that players would like the game for the same reasons. It's not a leap at all - reviewers are people too - they just put into words what the other millions of people playing the game don't have to.