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  1. #11
    Player
    xXAzurePrimeXx's Avatar
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    Creme Anglaise
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZYSTAR View Post
    I haven't had any issues with solos as DNC. Make sure to keep up your standard step and get in close for the finish step, because standard step sequence causes damage + buffs your DPS, as I'm sure you know about the latter. Do all the steps, don't miss any. That's the only thing I can think of, honestly, because I've seen some DNCs do their standard steps away from mobs and such.
    Yeah this really bugs be a ton. They see "ranged dps" and activate steps all the way in the back. It's my new pet peeve XD
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  2. #12
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    Reimmi's Avatar
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    Character
    Nia Niyah
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    It would be nice if after not getting a proc your next time using that ability gave a guaranteed proc
    Would still have the RNG but also have protection to keep the dps consistent
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  3. #13
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    Maero's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    I'shtola Maqa
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by xXAzurePrimeXx View Post
    Yeah this really bugs be a ton. They see "ranged dps" and activate steps all the way in the back. It's my new pet peeve XD
    I understand fully but it annoys the heck out of me were a tank stands still and in the middle of steps or any cd really they decide to take off. Grr that is my pet peeve
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  4. #14
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    dragoelete's Avatar
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    Character
    Drago Xhula
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    I understand fully but it annoys the heck out of me were a tank stands still and in the middle of steps or any cd really they decide to take off. Grr that is my pet peeve
    thats what en avant is for (thank god they let you use that skill during steps)
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  5. #15
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    Nims's Avatar
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    Character
    Soosi Ejinn
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Miner Lv 70
    I haven't had any issues in solo duties as a dancer.

    For single target if I'm with typical xiv pugs, I outdps all of them. Pair me with someone that can press buttons and I'm on average 2k dps behind.

    I out dps everyone on aoe pulls.

    Overall I'm ok with dancer's dps. We have a lot of buffs and an aoe heal, can't have it all.
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  6. #16
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    Nexxus's Avatar
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    Lyon
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    Character
    Yoko Ceres
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 70
    You'll be far behind once you hit 80.
    You can't say it is fine, as you are 75, every others class didn't get their power yet.
    On Titania, i'm far behind all the DPS.
    I don't mind, but it is worth having a low dps and giving some damage buff ? will it be enough ?
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  7. #17
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    Luluna's Avatar
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    Shadowlord
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    Character
    Luluna Eve
    World
    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    I love Dancer I enjoy the buffs I give to the party and to myself. I have had no issues at all I have kept everyone buffed and put out decent amount of damage.

    I feel people are forgetting that dancer is a buffer/support job it is a lot of fun. If you want to put out bigger numbers then that's fine maybe dancer isn't for everyone.
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  8. #18
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    Crushnight's Avatar
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    Character
    Jets Down
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    I'd say in a group setting dancer is fine as it is if your partner never dies and standard step buffs never drop (which they shouldn't) freely take 5% of your partner's dps and add it to your own. This ofc doesn't account for other party buffs you or anyone else applies but with the above scenerio there is no way they have had that dps without you, so own it

    The only real problem in solo instances is espirit you lose a good way to generate it so you cannot Saber dance as often but this is hardly a deal breaker since instances feel tuned around bad rng and low espirit gain. The Eulmore instance for example i had 0 procs outside flourish and got enough for Saber Dance twice(i really mean it, it was horrible), against final enemy in it yet i still won.

    While you can target npcs with closed position they ofc don't do things as much as a adequate player would so resource generation is still a bit slow.

    I feel a good change to Espirit generation would be double the chance you can earn espirit for yourself but keep it how it is for party members under standard/techncal buffs.

    Also make Saber dance ogcd with 1s recast pls just pls it being a gcd skill feels wonky >_<
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  9. #19
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    Xelanar's Avatar
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    Character
    Xelanar Fhey
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Crushnight View Post
    I'd say in a group setting dancer is fine as it is if your partner never dies and standard step buffs never drop (which they shouldn't) freely take 5% of your partner's dps and add it to your own. This ofc doesn't account for other party buffs you or anyone else applies but with the above scenerio there is no way they have had that dps without you, so own it
    This is something people tend to forget. Dancers will always be bottom line in terms of personal DPS, because this is how it functions. If Dancers were on par with other DPS jobs in addition to all of their support, they would be way overpowered.
    Also feel free to add 5% of every second raid burst DPS phase to your own too, because Technical Finish does exactly that.

    Players who like being right on front in terms of personal DPS should consider switching to another job, because this is not what Dancers are there for =/.
    There are so many jobs catering to people who like pushing their own numbers and only two jobs for those who perfer pushing numbers of others: Astrologian and Dancer.

    I understand how liking a theme(e.g. dancing) can drive someone towards a job, even if they'd rather play the personal DPS kind of job.
    Keep in mind though that the opposite is also true: players like me, who prefer a supportive approach, might find e.g. black magic an appealing theme and would prefer black mages to be LESS about personal DPS and more about support, but this is not what the job is supposed to represent.
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  10. #20
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    dragoelete's Avatar
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    Character
    Drago Xhula
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Xelanar View Post
    This is something people tend to forget. Dancers will always be bottom line in terms of personal DPS, because this is how it functions. If Dancers were on par with other DPS jobs in addition to all of their support, they would be way overpowered.
    Also feel free to add 5% of every second raid burst DPS phase to your own too, because Technical Finish does exactly that.

    Players who like being right on front in terms of personal DPS should consider switching to another job, because this is not what Dancers are there for =/.
    There are so many jobs catering to people who like pushing their own numbers and only two jobs for those who perfer pushing numbers of others: Astrologian and Dancer.

    I understand how liking a theme(e.g. dancing) can drive someone towards a job, even if they'd rather play the personal DPS kind of job.
    Keep in mind though that the opposite is also true: players like me, who prefer a supportive approach, might find e.g. black magic an appealing theme and would prefer black mages to be LESS about personal DPS and more about support, but this is not what the job is supposed to represent.
    you forgot ninja.
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