A popular MMO reviewer gave FFXIV Shadowbringers the thumbs down o.o

[Moonlite]

At around 4 minutes, 30 seconds TheLazyPeon states, "And I think the only reason the main questline is designed this way is because it's so bad that they probably make a lot of money from people paying not to do it" this line is a major hasty generalization fallacy, to add on to the repeated "leveling is boring" circular argument fallacy repeated throughout the video.

Well he doesn't have the research or time to put up to back this claim. But remember Yoshi talked about not gating Stormblood. But that turned into not gating new jobs in Stormblood. Followed shortly by announcement of skipping for cash. Which also follows a continuation of gating zones/dungeons behind MSQ. Also remember WoW pricing is a little off since tokens play a role in monthly costs.



I do think people are to way bent out of shape over this. FFXIV does not meet two of the more popular(requested?) features of MMOs. Action based combat and open world(sand box). But in FFXIV defense they never try to convince people they have those features.

[hydralus]

Sounds like the guy is just watching twitch and youtube videos of Shadowbringers and not acutally playing it. If that's the case then he is not worth anyones time to listen too.

He hasn't even touched shadowbringers at all. The review is just about the leveling system.

[Bearded]

I watched the video and I do have to admit the guy was hardly being unbiased in his opinions. He needed to justify more why he considered the levelling was bad (which it is not in my opinion as there are loads of way to level).

Sadly though it is par for the course for those who think there is nothing. but end-game and ignore the years of content that was released before.

[Calypsx]

I've been playing this game for years and he's really not wrong with a lot of his points. I've had so many friends try to get into this game but they couldn't because it really is incredibly boring at times. The 2.0 story is such a slog and early levels lack any sort of challenge that would keep people who are more invested in gameplay a reason to stay.

Also getting mad at him using a story skip in this game when it's constantly advertised is silly.

[hydralus]

Also getting mad at him using a story skip in this game when it's constantly advertised is silly.

I'd never get mad at someone for using their money how they wish but I will always find it silly that people actually pay real money to strip away the meat of a videogame they purchased just to get close to the end. And sure, maybe you don't like the meat, but why the Hell are you throwing more money at it hoping the last couple of hours of content will be better? Strange. I'll never understand it, but it seems to happen an awful lot.

[Jandor]

Meh, he doesn't like it, that's his right.

Maybe he would if he did X Y and Z differently but at the end of the day you can't really FACTS and LOGIC yourself into having a good time. /shrug

[loreleidiangelo]

I've been playing this game for years and he's really not wrong with a lot of his points. I've had so many friends try to get into this game but they couldn't because it really is incredibly boring at times. The 2.0 story is such a slog and early levels lack any sort of challenge that would keep people who are more invested in gameplay a reason to stay.

Also getting mad at him using a story skip in this game when it's constantly advertised is silly.

Right, if you don't like XIV's story your options are basically 1.) quit playing, 2.) buy a skip and hope that endgame content buoys your interest in the game. Either option Peon took probably would have led to him giving the game a bad review, so I'm not sure why people are losing their mind over the skip specifically.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Well he doesn't have the research or time to put up to back this claim. But remember Yoshi talked about not gating Stormblood. But that turned into not gating new jobs in Stormblood. Followed shortly by announcement of skipping for cash. Which also follows a continuation of gating zones/dungeons behind MSQ. Also remember WoW pricing is a little off since tokens play a role in monthly costs.



I do think people are to way bent out of shape over this. FFXIV does not meet two of the more popular(requested?) features of MMOs. Action based combat and open world(sand box). But in FFXIV defense they never try to convince people they have those features.

I'm glad they don't. I hate sandbox games, and action combat isn't that fun to me. I prefer xivs. (I got several classes to max level in Tera and gw2.) gw2 isn't really action combat, but it's close enough

[JunkhogMakison]

The dude got paid money under the table to defend Black Desert Online, he doesn't grasp the concept of standards and taste. Not to mention he just doesnt know what hes talking about in general.

His whole video is wrong, yea you can have an opinion but the opinion is just incorrect. Its like saying you like listening to a song out of tune or you like to read a book backwards or support shady sneaky slimy Korean MMORPG developers, I know it's your opinion but your opinion is dead wrong.

[CazzT]

The dude got paid money under the table to defend Black Desert Online

Got some proof of that? Like or dislike Peon, lets at least not lie about him.