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    Lorelei Diangelo
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    My only issue is that the actual dance concept seems woefully oversold and that's a bit of a shame to me. The dances are basically 1-minute upkeep buffs for you and another person that require a little DDR minigame to get maximum value from. I was hoping they'd be a more integral part of the job but I'm still having fun leveling it ATM.

    As others have already said, having enjoyed 2.x BRD and 4.x BRD with Bloodletter/Mage's procs I also enjoy DNC's less static rotation. The ability animations flow together beautifully while not looking overly feminine IMO, and honestly if the dances were a bit more than just a slightly interactive maintenance buff it would be my main for sure. Right now I'm having a blast leveling it but not sure it's "main" material for me. Can definitely see why it has tons of appeal though, which is where I suppose I and the OP differ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
    The dances are basically 1-minute upkeep buffs for you and another person that require a little DDR minigame to get maximum value from.
    Standard finish hits really really hard and I've been told you use it every 30s. Not sure of the math but I'll gladly believe it to play ddr twice as often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlas-04 View Post
    Standard finish hits really really hard and I've been told you use it every 30s. Not sure of the math but I'll gladly believe it to play ddr twice as often.
    Using every 30s is not a great idea, but let me explain why:

    Standard finish needs 4 GCD, your regular single target (x2) combo is 900 potency vs 1000 potency from the standard finish. Sounds good, right? Sure, but there is a catch: dance moves can't generate flourish procs, and you want to generate as many procs as you can. After all, a dancer has 3 layers of RNG: Flourish-> Feather-> Fan III.

    Edit: I was wrong, ignore this.
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    Last edited by Driavna; 06-29-2019 at 10:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    Using every 30s is not a great idea, but let me explain why:

    Standard finish needs 4 GCD, your regular single target (x2) combo is 900 potency vs 1000 potency from the standard finish. Sounds good, right? Sure, but there is a catch: dance moves can't generate flourish procs, and you want to generate as many procs as you can. After all, a dancer has 3 layers of RNG: Flourish-> Feather-> Fan III.
    Standard finish does not need 4 GCD's. Each step move takes 1 second. GCD is 2.5 seconds.

    Standard finish is 1000 potency. Cascade is 200, Fountain is 250, using these 2 skills takes 5 seconds. Standard finish takes less time to cast than this and hits almost twice as hard.
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    Last edited by WaterShield; 06-29-2019 at 10:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WaterShield View Post
    Standard finish does not need 4 GCD's. Each step move takes 1 second. GCD is 2.5 seconds. Using Standard finish is higher potency.
    I stand corrected then!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WaterShield View Post
    Standard finish does not need 4 GCD's. Each step move takes 1 second. GCD is 2.5 seconds.

    Standard finish is 1000 potency. Cascade is 200, Fountain is 250, using these 2 skills takes 5 seconds. Standard finish takes less time to cast than this and hits almost twice as hard.
    Thank you for explaining that, I was away after posting so couldn't do it myself
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlas-04 View Post
    Thank you for explaining that, I was away after posting so couldn't do it myself
    It's my new main for raiding going into Eden

    I spent all day yesterday grinding it to lvl 72 >.>
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    Last edited by WaterShield; 06-30-2019 at 12:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WaterShield View Post
    It's my new main for raiding going into Eden

    I spent all day yesterday grinding it to lvl 72 >.>
    same, having a blast. Hit 70 last night so today i finally get to start the msq
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    Lorelei Diangelo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlas-04 View Post
    Standard finish hits really really hard and I've been told you use it every 30s. Not sure of the math but I'll gladly believe it to play ddr twice as often.
    You do, but I guess I was expecting something a bit more persistent like BRD's SB songs, which had some neat layers to them. I would have loved to combine different dances for different upkeep buffs, for instance.

    Obviously as I said elsewhere though the class plays perfectly fine and feels fluid, the above viewpoint is just personal expectations not matching reality. :P
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