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Thread: RIP Healers

  1. #11
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    Cyrocco's Avatar
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    Lutemis Rangar
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    Adamantoise
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    Lancer Lv 10
    Speaking strictly on AST, because it's the only thing I've worked on so far:

    Is the card system more fun? No.

    Is it necessarily a better kit? No.

    Does it relate to the lore? Nah.

    Is it a cohesive kit? Yes.

    Getting the same card 3-5 times in a row isn't unique to the new kit, it's something that happens with RNG, it's something that happened with the old kit. As for your seals, you only gain them while in combat, and you don't enter combat until you contribute healing or damage. Furthermore, the player you're buffing must also be in combat.
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    Ahrijlaken's Avatar
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    Ahri Eija
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    Scholar Lv 76
    This is the first time i wonder if i will reroll WHM ..... the healer i hate the most since FF14 release.
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    Kai Earendel
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Yeah I cannot play this role anymore.

    At best you spend 10% of your game time doing content that might be considered "challenging". These Jobs are borderline unplayable the other 90% of the time. I just did an alliance roulette as WHM, for my friend leveling Dancer. It feels like you're level 5. And the worst part is that it scarcely changes past 70. They need to do something drastic, and quickly.
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I'll play SCH till 80 but I'll be looking at alternative roles after it. At least the saving grace is I can still leech summoner.

    SCH works but... they just introduced really obnoxious mechanics that don't need to be there, like in-combat aetherflow only. Can't prepare stacks between pulls, have to burn stacks to increase the fairy gauge even when no healing is needed, etc. I'm leveling but I'm certainly not enjoying it as much as I could be when QoL is taken away.
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Glad I main SCH so I can do the MSQ via Summoner. I would NOT want to have to do that with a crappy healer dps.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Shion Virai
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Side-Eye View Post
    That's part of the problem: how many people are going to grind through level 70, 71, 72... and all the levels up to 80, while having no fun playing the job relative to what they've been used to for months or years, on the off chance that they might have an "ah-hah!" moment after they finally reach 80 and compete their job quests to see the fully realized Squeen-o-vision?

    I tried playing my AST for a while today, and it was kind of painful.
    I couldn't even genuinely try to play it - it actually pissed me off while I was doing the whole spammy charge bs system, so I'm just going to avoid AST in favor of DRG.
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  7. #17
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    Ash Crowe
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    Brynhildr
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    Red Mage Lv 84
    Quote Originally Posted by Felien View Post
    AST looks like buff job not a healer, with a WHM will be probably the meta in the end game.

    But fells bad, SCH was always meta because of their kit that was too good against the other 2 healers. In the AST case is because is a buff job not the kit all together. Sometimes the potency is kinda off.
    It won’t be. SCH at 80 has more healing output than WHM does now through seraph and the fairies and has utility whereas WHM once again for the 3rd expac in a row does not. WHM will ultimately be the prog healer once again and will then be shelved just like it was in HW and SB.
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    Nephie Elz
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    Lamia
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    Archer Lv 90
    I'm going to just lv ASt with BRD. A lot of early reactions due seem to point that HLRs are over-pruned with some similarities between what I remember BRD was like when they just continued to nerf it in 2.0. And, hopefully, it's not totes like the bowmage with Divination/horoscope as Wandere's minuet during that expansion...
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    Ewwwwwww, it's all glowwy again!

  9. #19
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    Esmond Sage
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Yuyuka3 View Post
    The notion that healers have a hard time to clear single player content really baffles me. So far, I decimated everything pretty quickly, it didn't feel much, if any, slower than before, and I didn't even have my chocobo out at times.
    That's because you're a White Mage.

    Between PoM/Thin Air and highest-potency DoT/Filler, you have way higher burst than SCH/AST.

    For comparison, if you've got Dia, you're basically taking Biolysis and adding a 120 Potency initial hit to it that SCH doesn't have. And AST's Combust is worse but they at least get card damage buffs.

    SCH solo play is basically HW Paladin: Nothing's going to kill you, but it's going to take forever.
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  10. #20
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    Carda Monokuman
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 70
    AST has become a laughing joke meme. Tried a dungeon with that class and it feels so empty now, when it was my fun healer until 5.0 The card system overhaul is (hard to keep it politely here) a big mistake. No more time extensions either so a whooping 6% party buff for 15 seconds after spamming damage cards in the right order. No thanks. SCH to me is still somewhat fun even after what they did to him/her and WHM is still gonna be my main. I think a lot of people saw this coming, no? Mostly I now just play without doing any DPS as the developers want me to do more healing... i'll just overheal then.
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