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    Oniwori Kiyuromi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonus View Post
    That's the thing, you don't need 5 stacks to make it worth it,at least I don't take it that way. When it becomes meditate was already worth it for just getting a shinten a bit earlier, or having enough kenki to burn guren after downtime if the boss left the arena a d you sat at 30 kenki. Where I see it becomes worth it, if it doesn't animation lock you, is 3 meditation stacks. You get a "free" shinten, and 200 extra potency from shoha just for meditating. 520 potency at least (without buffs).

    It might still be worth it even you're close to being called on kenki and meditating pits you at 100, but you still get meditation stacks. If I can, at the very least, get 1 shinten out of meditation, it's worth it. I could be wrong, but that's how I take it. I know a few dungeons, where I can get 3 meditation stacks.
    I really hate when people say its "free" damage because that can apply to anything but aside that.
    You need at least 4 or 5 stacks of meditate to make it worth it.
    1 stack is a pathetic 50 pot
    2 Stack is 100, lower than your combo starter
    3 stack is 200, weaker than seigan which I already stated that does almost next to nothing to really bump your dps up that much.
    now the 4th stack is where it gets useful, THAT's a free shinten...rather, the old potency of it.

    But getting a 4th stack is just as hard as getting a 5th stack due to server ticks.

    And again you're looking at it from a pretty plan view.
    You get that weak 200 potency every 60secs, a minute.

    and I'm not talking about the meditation skill itself so the point about getting a shinten out it not needed as I'm talking about shoha.

    Also getting a 3 stack on a boss in a dgn is not going gain you much.
    You're looking at potency at face value, you have to see what shoha does at the lower stack over the course of a fight.
    With this being fight dependent it'll be less frequent that even seigan.

    I'll use my os10.

    I got 7 seigan which was 200 at the time, the same pot as 3 stack shoha.
    My overall dps at that fight was 71191.1k and my seigan gave 37.8k, if I were to take away that 37.8k it would be 7081.3. Not too bad right? shoha won't be that bad then right?

    Wrong, realistically; you would NEVER get that many meditates to go up to 3 stacks everytime or even get 7 meditates.
    So Since I'm bad at math I'll use one of my os9 because I got two seigans in there and it gave me a wopping 11.3k out of a 8.125.5 dps overall and you know how many meditates you can even get in os9? One.
    That fight has too much uptime, with fights that much uptime. Shoha is a dead skill.

    Still think the way shoha works is a good skill? or "rewarding"?

    ((if you think its underwhelming why are you defending it? seriously...))
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    Last edited by xxvaynxx; 06-28-2019 at 01:43 PM.