The finalized 5.0 healer changes revealed (links)

[Lannybaby]

If SCH's recitation skill makes it so that excog and indom don't consume an aetherflow stack, does that mean they won't generate any faerie gauge either, while recitation is active?

[Sylve]

If SCH's recitation skill makes it so that excog and indom don't consume an aetherflow stack, does that mean they won't generate any faerie gauge either, while recitation is active?

The tooltips read as though the Faerie Gauge is generated on use of the skill, not specifically consumption of a Stack.

The Faerie Gauge increases when a faerie or Seraph is summoned and an Aetherflow action is successfully executed while in combat.

This specific line on Fae Union indicates the Gauge goes up when the skill is executed, regardless of the Aetherflow.
Though the old tooltip only specifies that it must be an Aetherflow action and must inflict an effect on a target.
Since we've never had a method to use an AF action without using a stack, I'm not sure we can know for certain how Recitation is going to affect it.

Does Recitation work for 1 cast only or the full 15 seconds? The tooltip reads as though it works for the duration.

SCH: Physick, Adloquium, Succor.
WHM: Cure, Medica, Cure II, Regen, Cure III, Medica II, Afflatus Solace, Afflatus Rapture
AST: Benefic, Helios, Benefic II, Aspected Benefic, Aspected Helios.

I see a difference in the number of affected skills there.

I didn't feel like listing out every GCD heal since since I was mainly pointing out that GCD heals are the only ones affected.

Since Dissipation puts the Fairy away … Of course the Fairy doesn't benefit?

My point is that when using our respective Healing Potency boost, only the GCD heals are affected. As such, ALL Healers are impacted if the buff doesn't get extended to Abilities. Some more than others and I never said otherwise.
Dissipation is underpowered in general because it shunts the Fairy away. Being locked out of Fairy Healing is more detrimental than the potency buff covers. Especially in ShB with so much of the new stuff being built around the Fairy.

There is no way on Hydelaen it's be allowed for the full 15 seconds. It'd be BUSTED if that were the case.

No more busted than Temperance being a party DR and Healing boost in one button.
Nor Neutral Sect offering Regens AND Shields on Aspected casts.
15 seconds of free Adloq crits would just be fun :P

Only reason I even considered it might last full duration is its resemblance to Reassemble, which specifies only the NEXT weaponskill gets a Crit. Same with Sharpcast specifying the NEXT spell will get a bonus. Whereas Recitation simply states that it has a duration of 15 seconds and:

Allows the execution of Adloquium, Succor, Indomitability, or Excogitation without consuming resources while also ensuring critical HP is restored.

If it was a one shot deal, shouldn't it specify only the next one cast gets the benefit, in the same way all similar skills are worded?

[Anselmet]

Heeeeey Urianger... Alphinaud... you two are looking like mighty fine. How about you join my party so I forget about healing. Much better option.

[Crushnight]

You are right but Sacred Soil only has Regen in ShB as far as I remember correctly?

ah yes after re reading it sacred soil does not gain its regen effect until lv78. still better in every way to Collective Unconscious and it gives fairy gauge which helps sch more XD

so any lv78+ schs if i don't see sacred soil every 30s while fighting you better be dancing the manderville mambo

[Ilenya]

I didn't feel like listing out every GCD heal since since I was mainly pointing out that GCD heals are the only ones affected.

Since Dissipation puts the Fairy away … Of course the Fairy doesn't benefit?

My point is that when using our respective Healing Potency boost, only the GCD heals are affected. As such, ALL Healers are impacted if the buff doesn't get extended to Abilities. Some more than others and I never said otherwise.
Dissipation is underpowered in general because it shunts the Fairy away. Being locked out of Fairy Healing is more detrimental than the potency buff covers. Especially in ShB with so much of the new stuff being built around the Fairy.

I kinda forgot about it taking away the faerie, to be fair, because that wasn't what I was looking for at the time and I never use the skill anyways.

I was just pointing out how...Completely underwhelming the skill was as a whole, and your initial comment made it seem to me that you were saying that it was okay because AST and WHM (Who have more GCD heals) have the same effect.

And yes, I do think 15 seconds of crit adlo, even with the change to how it works, would be busted. I would love every second of it, mind you, but you can't say that isn't busted.

[Sylve]

I kinda forgot about it taking away the faerie, to be fair, because that wasn't what I was looking for at the time and I never use the skill anyways.

I was just pointing out how...Completely underwhelming the skill was as a whole, and your initial comment made it seem to me that you were saying that it was okay because AST and WHM (Who have more GCD heals) have the same effect.

And yes, I do think 15 seconds of crit adlo, even with the change to how it works, would be busted. I would love every second of it, mind you, but you can't say that isn't busted.

Well I'm not sure i'd call it broken. The effects on Temperance and Neutral Sect are absurdly good too. If we see more raidwides like Tumult (continuous blasts of damage), SCH would get left behind hard by the other 2 because it'd have no way to deal with rapid incoming AoEs unless it blows all its MP on Succors since we only get 1 Indom. Or even rapid single target busters.
SCH is all about planning when and where to utilize its stuff, Recitation would act almost like a "Plan B: Sh!t has hit the fan" button. It'd be pretty flavorful.

But we have also other healing abilitys like Tetra, Bene, Regen, Asylum, Assize or Medica 2. Either I use up a lily everytimes it pops or I hold them and use them 3 times for a full Blood Lily. Or maybe two in a row. Or I have a full Blood Lily reserved and three normals so using Misery, use the 3 Lily up and use Misery again. Would be a waste to not use a 900 potency attack.

Well then. Its almost like we have some flexibility in how we want to heal people.