Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Gwenorai]

R a t h a l o s

[Crushnight]

Female Viera

[WhiteArchmage]

There were Lore arguments against the implementation of both Hrothgar (well, best races), and Viera, so I don't see how Lore is the end-all break-all now lol
Beast Tribes aren't welcome in Ul'Dah or Gridania (and the Kobolds were betrayed by Limsa), so any bestial race would have to face that Lore... until Hrothgar, and it seems the Hrothgar only skirt not being one by... sharing speech with the Spoken... which the Syphls do, too. Heck, the Lalas are a beast tribe in the First...
The Viera Lore excuse was... flimsier

[Mylionare]

And that the males breed once every three years - and we don't know if they just have one mate or have a 'harem' of females they have to deal with at the time.

I think it would be rather enjoyable to see a side quest involving a male and female viera who abscond from the wood to live a mostly sickeningly sweet romantic lifestyle, something akin to the Hildibrand quest line. A similar idea would also be rather heartwarming seeing a hrothgar father and mother doting on their kits or litter(I do not recall if they give birth in litters or not so my apologies for any mistakes).

[zeylos]

The lore argument huh?
What is mor likely, than most female viera, who never eveeeer leave the woods, specially since they live in extreme comfort and without having to protect almost anything, decide to suddenyl leave the wood, or that male viera, who are treated like garbage, forced to leave alone, live much much closer to civilization and struggle to even eat, decide to leave the forest and go to a civilization. That a race on where the females are queens only the males can leave is also a very good argument, specially because the queen could totally not say to all the male hrotgar to stay at home and she and her sisters are going on an adventure throught the world

[JohnSpawnVFX]

The lore argument huh?
What is mor likely, than most female viera, who never eveeeer leave the woods, specially since they live in extreme comfort and without having to protect almost anything, decide to suddenyl leave the wood, or that male viera, who are treated like garbage, forced to leave alone, live much much closer to civilization and struggle to even eat, decide to leave the forest and go to a civilization. That a race on where the females are queens only the males can leave is also a very good argument, specially because the queen could totally not say to all the male hrotgar to stay at home and she and her sisters are going on an adventure throught the world

Oh, are we playing the "I totally want mViera and I couldn't care less about fHrothgar but once I get called out on it, I'm going to pretend that's not what I meant and that's it's language issues so I don't get jumped on and look good in everyone's eyes" game again?

[zeylos]

Oh, are we playing the "I totally want mViera and I couldn't care less about fHrothgar but once I get called out on it, I'm going to pretend that's not what I meant and that's it's language issues so I don't get jumped on and look good in everyone's eyes" game again?

Here we go
I won't feed into your desire for drama, so make your drama thread if u want. I literally said it makes more sense for female hrotgar to be female only playable race.

[Allegor]

Only Helions are reliant on their queen's wishes, the Lost couldn't care less, just saying.

As for Viera, given how they were already cornered by lore in a literal 'serve the woods or die' fashion, the player male Viera would very likely be either an exile or some ambassador. I'd opt for the former since a mere adventurer is no job for someone meant to represent their people.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

Here we go
I won't feed into your desire for drama, so make your drama thread if u want. I literally said it makes more sense for female hrotgar to be female only playable race.

The only one starting drama here is you, because you feel the need to take fHrothgar hostage any time you feel mViera is under fire.
You and anyone else know nowhere near enough of both races' lore to be making assumptions like this. We only know that Hrothgar have a queen, and no idea about any other females of the species. As far as we know, this could even be a Galka situation, where the race reproduces in a completely different way than the others, and there's only one queen/female alive at a time.

[zeylos]

The only one starting drama here is you, because you feel the need to take fHrothgar hostage any time you feel mViera is under fire.
You and anyone else know nowhere near enough of both races' lore to be making assumptions like this. We only know that Hrothgar have a queen, and no idea about any other females of the species. As far as we know, this could even be a Galka situation, where the race reproduces in a completely different way than the others, and there's only one queen/female alive at a time.

xDD
I say: female hrotgar should be the ones exploring. That's taking out hrotgar? I think I'll just ignore this because I ain't gonna start another drama here, we've had enough. So, topic switching, do u think fem viera will get the new hairstyles?